Who is Karl Rove's real father? (like an episode of Star Wars)

[helderheid]

"Rove prepared for the harder edges of US politics by surviving his youth. Born on Christmas Day 1950 in Denver, Colorado, he grew up in or near the Rockies, where his father worked as a geologist. On his 19th birthday, his father walked out on him. Soon afterwards, he found out that he was not his father after all, the news dropped into a dinner-table conversation by his aunt and uncle. Twelve years later, alone in Reno, his mother committed suicide. "

From the Guardian

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1165126,00.html

[hippiechick]

1. Satan ?

:shrug:

[BuyingThyme]

2. Otto Skorzeny

[TheDebbieDee]

13. I thought Karl Rove's father was a Nazi......

or an immigrant from Germany. I can't remember where I read it though.

[PurityOfEssence]

37. Interesting theory, except he was big, butch and manly

Karly's a schlub. Sure, he's not a midget, but Skorzeny was a big honkin' virile man who'd make most fascist males swoon with hero worship.

Whatever.

Prying into the pain of one's disrupted childhood is ugly, but someone as brutally vicious as Karl deserves all the pain that can be directed at him.

Bummer.

[helderheid]

38. yeah, agreed. I am cringing a little but yea... it's Rove - mastermind of

the most evil administration we've ever seen here.

[Christa]

3. Immaculate conception?

Being born on Christmas day :rofl: Maybe nobody wants to take ownership :rofl:

[tinrobot]

4. Stalin

[helderheid]

5. good answers all

[Dem Agog]

6. If YOU birthed Rove...

Wouldn't you commit suicide?

I know I would have if that little demon had ever come squirting out of my loins...

So Rove's daddy left him and mommy killed herself, eh?

Something tells me they knew they'd birthed a little piglet Satan and wanted to abandon him early. A life story that couldn't have happened to a more deserving fuck.

[The Backlash Cometh]

7. Notice how Rove and Bush both have daddy problems?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. Cthulhu?

[orpupilofnature57]

11. Nice, it reminds me of Frank Frazetta

[kweerwolf]

26. Hey! He looks like the Flying Spaghetti Monster!

[orpupilofnature57]

9. A megalomaniac named Biff, or tweety bird on acid

[Flammable Materials]

10. OMGWTFBBQ ROVE IS TEH ANTICHRIST

:wow:

[kweerwolf]

27. He can't be the anti-Christ.

His numbers only add up the 665 and three-quarters

[Horse with no Name]

12. Fat Bastard

On edit: For those that don't know, Fat Bastard was a character in Austin Powers...
"Baby, the other white meat"
Ya know, that guy.;)

[bonito]

14. So sad

personally, I wish nothing but love for everyone. the lack there of is what we are seeing.

[helderheid]

15. I think people were just poking fun. I try to practice unconditional love

for all people and see other points of view, but you gotta take things lightly sometimes - especially when things are so dark and we're dealing with so much fear.

[RB TexLa]

17. I'm sorry but that is something that is very difficult to take lightly n/t

[Tatiana]

16. The childhood he had is probably why he is where he is today.

His anger at his absent and/or non-biological father combined with his mother's suicide are probably why he has the need to destroy and decimate perceived "enemies." Bush is probably the only person in this world he considers family. That's why he goes to such great lengths to protect him.

What a sad, twisted, and sick individual. One can only hope he receives the psychological help he needs in prison.

[Bleacher Creature]

18. Take that one step further.

His childhood is probably why WE ALL are where we are today.

Had he gotten psychological help earlier, we'd be living in a much better country right now. Add that to Bush's failure to deal with his alcoholism head-on, and you have a really good argument for spending more on mental health.

[helderheid]

19. well said

[Tatiana]

21. Agreed. This is why we need to place importance on mental health as well

as physical. Mentally ill/unstable people who do not receive treatment harm us ALL in the long run. However mental health is not a topic we place great importance upon.

I honestly think Rove is mentally ill. Have you seen that pic of him sitting in front of the while of AF1? He has the emotional maturity of a 12 year-old.

Contrast this with Cheney, who is just pure unabated, inexcusable evil incarnate.

[lonestarnot]

20. The Poppee of a soon do be indicted, then tried and then convict, who

is pardoned by the bushitler.

[Autumn Colors]

22. Oh c'mon people

You ALL know it was Darth Sidious (aka Palpatine).

[banana republican]

23. I feel sooooo sorry for this sorry SOB.

1) HE was 19 when his father left. That is a FAR CRY for adolescents or early childhood where that usually results in chronic depression. My dad died when I was 12... I'm not an asshole.

2) He found out he was not his fathers after all??? Was he adopted??? Was he Illegitimate?? I was adopted. I'm not an asshole...

3) Well What does he expect he abandoned her... By that time he was 31 (19+12) years old. He should have known better. What did he do for 12 years??? He should have been taking care of good ole mom; but he didn't. My sister takes care of Mom; if she needs anything she just asks...

Like I said I feed sooooooo sorry......

[helderheid]

24. I was feeling a twinge of guilt - I'm sorry to hear about what you had

to deal with. I haven't had to live through a death of a parent yet and feel very fortunate to have had my folks during my childhood.

You're definitely not an asshole and glad you're here.

[kweerwolf]

25. I could have been Rove's father ...

... but that damnned Taco Belle Chilhuahua beat me over the fence.

[mtnsnake]

28. Karl Rove's father died 2 years before he was born

[Elwood P Dowd]

31. Adolph Rover died in 48? I thought he was hung in 46??

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[DistressedAmerican]

29. Joe McCarthy!

"ARE YOU NOW OR HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A LIBERAL?"

[kohodog]

30. So we should feel sorry for the SOB?

Even if it is true?

[ChiciB1]

32. Remember "The Omen?"

Damien NEVER DIED!!!

[helderheid]

33. when I posted this thread, I was asking this question genuinely

I know it is a sick fascination but it is (to me) very interesting. I wonder who is real father is? I wonder where the man who raised him is now? You would think SOMEONE would have uncovered this information and although it doesn't really matter, I am curious. I wonder if the man who raised him is out there alive somewhere and wonder what he thinks of Karl today given all that is happening. I also wonder if the man who is his biological father is out there and knows (or suspects) he could be his dad. I just find it all very interesting even if it is petty shit. I'm allowed my amusement and curiosity.

[Elwood P Dowd]

34. I think his grandfather was an SS officer in Germany

Name was Rover or Roverer. At least that was a hot rumor at one time.

[helderheid]

36. that was seriously (er SERIESLY!!) a rumor?

[Elwood P Dowd]

40. Looks like Rove's grandfather was a Nazi.

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1006-08.htm

According to Wilson, and to Retired U.S. Navy Lt. Commander Al Martin (www.almartinraw.com), Rove's grandfather was Karl Heinz Roverer, the Gauleiter of Oldenburg. Roverer was Reich-Statthalter---Nazi State Party Chairman---for his region. He was also a partner and senior engineer in the Roverer Sud-Deutche Ingenieurburo A. G. engineering firm, which built the Birkenau death camp, at which tens of thousands of Jews, Gypsies, dissidents and other were slaughtered en masse.

Rove, who has been based in Utah and associated with the Mormon Church, is widely viewed as the chief engineer of the current Bush administration. He and Tom DeLay are attempting to force the Texas legislature to redistrict its Congressional delegations, adding seven sure seats to the Republican column. By controlling the state houses in New York, Florida, Texas and California, the GOP would have a lock on the four largest states in the union, and thus the ability to manipulate vote counts and strip voter registration rolls in the run-up to the 2004 election.

Rove is a prime behind-the-scenes mover in the Schwarzenegger campaign. On May 1, 1939, a year after the Nazis took control of Schwarzenegger's native Austria, his father Gustav, voluntarily joined Hilter's infamous Strumabteilung (SA), "brown shirt" stormtroopers. This was just six months after the brown shirts played a key role in the bloody Kristallnacht attacks on Germany's Jewish community.

The Vienna daily Der Standard noted recently that "Gustav, a high-ranking Nazi, brought up the bespectacled, rather frail boy with an iron fist and quite a few slaps in the face." Arnold's father favored a Hitler-style mustache in photos.

[helderheid]

41. is this the father of the man who raised him or his natural father?

[mondo joe]

35. It would be funny if it were Bill Clinton's biological dad.

[laureloak]

39. This is very sad.

[OneBlueSky]

42. um . . . Leo Strauss? . . . n/t

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