On C-Span Now -- Congress addressing Republican corruption... nt

[Peter Frank]

[helderheid]

1. thanks !!

[sepia_steel]

2. Thanks for the heads-up eom

[babylonsister]

3. Thank you! nt

[Skidmore]

4. Yeah, Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

She's so smart and takes no prisoners.

Hammering Rove.

"Why can't the president cope without Rove by his side."

Excellent question.

Colloquy with Kendrick Meek. They are singing a duet.

[janx]

45. I've called her office before (and I don't live in Florida).

She's smart, articulate, and she's not afraid to speak out. Floridians should be very proud of her. :toast:

[Greeby]

5. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz

"Is Mr. Bush so incompetent he can't function with Karl Rove at his side?"

Come on, Debbie. You know the answer is yes ;)

[libnnc]

6. kick--our House Dems at work

Meeks and Wasserman-Schultz on the floor now

[babylonsister]

7. Tim Ryan - stand by! This guy is great! nt

[Sydnie]

16. So far, he has NOT disappointed at all!

He is good ... and from Ohio ... how did they let him in? ;)

[babylonsister]

22. Hello, my friend!

Do you remember the speech Ryan gave several years ago when he was screaming down the House, RE: the war? I wish I had a clip of that; he was terrific!

[Sydnie]

31. Hey Sis!

Nope, I don't remember that speech. I wish you had a clip too. I would love to see it!

I have bounced back and forth today from joy and excitement to tears. Having seen that picture (in another thread again) of Boxer and her roses was more than I could take and all of the disappointment and frustration just came pouring out ... again.

To hear these speeches on the floor today have brought me back from the edge, again, to the brink of hopeful anticipation.

What a ride, huh? I wouldn't miss this dance for anything!

:hug: just for you and :grouphug: for a dems with a voice loud enough to speak the truth to power, today and everyday.

[babylonsister]

40. Sydnie, take heart and have faith!

I'm an eternal optimist, and believe two things; the truth shall prevail, and kharma is a bitch!
Hugs back to you! :hug:

[Skidmore]

48. Schultz--Is there a more heinous act than to deceive the people

into war?

OOPS.... posted these two too high ont he list.

[Skidmore]

50. Schultz--They have no respect for the American people.

[leesa]

147. No. Although doing 9-11 to your own people is close.

[cmd]

108. Is this what you are looking for?

http://homepage.mac.com/njenson/movies/timryanlow.html

Enjoy!

[babylonsister]

114. Thanks, cmd! nt

[MelissaB]

8. "You can't put your political party ahead of the interest of the country."

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. Thanks! Got it up now!

They're hitting hard on the publiCON rinse and repeats. Right now it's that Plame WAS a covert operative. :bounce:

[Skidmore]

10. Ryan joins. "You can't put your political party above the nation."

It's a trio.

[Skidmore]

12. Ryan--Talking about outing an agent being the equivalent of

taking out a military unit. Said like Rove pointing out that the Marines are "going right over there at this exact minute".

[Greeby]

11. Whats with the placard with Shrub on it, behind Ryan

:shrug:

[Skidmore]

15. This is beautiful...

Let it become a choir.

[Peter Frank]

17. I believe it shows administration related indictments... nt

[bluedog]

128. a chart that shows trillions of dollars

42 presidents+ trillion

versus

1 bush=trillion



trying to compare the deficit.....if all decifits were added for the 42 presidents pre bush.it would equal to trillion.(?)

now bush has created a trillion himeslf.

I wish Ryan would put thison his site......

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

13. Thanks! Have it on! eom

[tridim]

14. Wow! Tim Ryan (D-Ohio) is going off on BushCo

Awesome! All these things need to be said, loudly and every day until the BushCo is gone.

[Skidmore]

18. Ryan tracing the timeline for the outing of Plame. Rove lied to

the American people, not Andrea Own of ABC.

[Sydnie]

19. He's about to climb the golden stairs to the VP and beyond!

Go Tim Go!

[libnnc]

20. Do these three make up the "30-something Dems"?

is that the name of their caucus?

[Greeby]

25. Here we go

http://democraticleader.house.gov/30something/

[libnnc]

26. thank you kindly

beautiful!

[Clark2008]

44. I noticed Ford was on this list.

I keep telling y'all that he's moving further and further left from his former DLC positions. I think the Shrub's dumping on Tennessee and our troops and our poor and our educational values has given him position for pause.

He still is fairly pro-business, though; however, having heard him speak throughout his campaign for Senate, it seems he's becoming less corporate pro-business and more Mom & Pop pro-business, which is a move in the correct direction.

[Greeby]

21. This rule about not calling the President or Vice-President liars

It's gotta go. :eyes:

[paparush]

24. It will... Fmr. Prez Carter broke w/ Precident by Criticizing Bush**

[Greeby]

28. Not the ex-presidents "nicey-nice" tradition

I'm talking about the rule which forbids members of the House from calling them liars, which Ryan just mentioned as he went to talk about Cheney.

If the President and Vice-President lie, you should be able to call them liars on the House floor

[Skidmore]

23. Ryan--they lied to McClellan too.

LOL "Need to change the language here given the office we are to talk about." Then proceeds to begin with a discussion of Cheney and Libby. Enumerating specifically who Libby is and the nature of the charges against him. Meek and Ryan explaining who Russert is and his role.

[stop the bleeding]

27. Got it up now - thank you, FL Rep now talking n/t

[Skidmore]

29. Meek--comes back to this Congress and its lack of oversight.

"This is why this activity is going on."

Pointing out subpeona activity in Clinton administration and the difference with this administration.

Meek has also pointed out that this is not the three of them making stuff up but that this was being discussed in numerouse newspapers around the nation.

[stop the bleeding]

35. He's doing a good job laying out the facts. n/t

[flyarm]

30. i love kendrick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i am a dem delegate ...and i sat next to kendrick and his wife at the convention..and i can say he makes me so proud..he is wonderful!!

fly

[flyarm]

32. anddddddd Debbie Schultz is incredible as well!! three cheers !!

the congress people have so much credibility and moral stature...and i am so damn proud of them!!!!!!!!!!

fly

[Peter Frank]

33. This is a great day...

...can you smell the fresh air?

[goclark]

94. Love Meek!

[Greeby]

34. Doesn't it feel slightly pointless though?

They appear to be the only ones there aside from the Speaker

[Peter Frank]

36. And millions of viewers

[libnnc]

38. it's on the tee-vee and it's high noon (est)

not pointless at all. You're watching it, aren't you?

[skooooo]

37. Is this House or Senate?

[Peter Frank]

39. House

[Greeby]

42. House: It's the 30-something working group

nt

[libnnc]

43. House, House, House...

these are our House Dems speaking now.

[Skidmore]

41. Meek-requested list of subpeonas from Congressional Research

folks.

Were told the records were not complete for these. Committees not keeping records for previous congressmen. Discussion between three over what might be going on.

Puts majority on notice that those subpeonas, if they are in this building, that interns should be returning them to the archives. We're being locked out. This is the people's house but I question this. We're being locked out of information. We know what is going on this the back halls of congress.

ASIDE: Destroying records is federal offense.

[helderheid]

46. recommended - this is terrific!

[Skidmore]

47. Schultz--They are worried. They've tried to convince people

that we are just a bunch of inconsequential Dems hanging around complaining. Look at the timelines for outing the agent. It was about getting to war. Consequences are 2000 dead--lost their lives--because this administration was hell bent on being right. Didn't matter to them that there was no reason to go into Iraq. They wanted to do this long before 9/11. They were assembling the facts around their decision.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

49. "They Have No Respect For The American People!!" nt

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

51. She Bitch Slapped The Pres....And They Gavelled Her nt

[carolinalady]

59. Quote "You are a reflection of the people you surround yourself

with". /Georgie....../ <--- my addition.

[skooooo]

52. Wow the chair interrupted!

Then she starts right back in.

[helderheid]

53. wow!!!

What exactly did they tell her to not say?

[Skidmore]

Schultz--You are a reflection of who you surround yourself with.

Calls out for keeping Rove and is reprimanded by Speaker for dissing the Pres.

[libnnc]

54. Chair just "reminded" Debbie

not to "personally attack the President"

I wish we had a raspberry emoticon...

[Norquist Nemesis]

55. WOW!! They're trying to censure again!

They did this to Cynthia McKinney (IIRC) one day a while back.

Can't say anything bad about BUSH!

[babylonsister]

56. Speaker: no personal attacks against the prez.

I say bullshit! He so deserves it and these fearless house members deserve to express themselves and, by extension, us!

[Norquist Nemesis]

61. I have the feeling the R's a listening with very close "scrutiny"

and just waiting for the chance to bang the gavel and censure all three of them!

[carolinalady]

88. Oh yeah they were and now they are "hijacking" the house!

[Norquist Nemesis]

92. Yes. Ryan's holding his own though!

He's doing an EXTRAORDINARY job!!!!

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

57. Ryan - Ohio & Schultz - Florida Are Tag Teaming Them!

These guys are Great!

[Skidmore]

62. These three people deserve to be rewarded for their courage.

[stop the bleeding]

58. This is about the American People ! about the future of the country

man this is awsome!

[graywarrior]

60. This is almost too good to be true.

[chat_noir]

63. Can O Fun and Crooks and Liars - are you getting any of this?

Sure hope so!!

Wow! These 3 are kicking butt!!

:kick:

[Proud_Lefty]

64. Ryan is outstanding

He's been impressing the hell out of me lately. He should run for president in 2008.

[skooooo]

65. i've never seen anything like this!

whoah!

[helderheid]

66. I'm so happy I'm so happy I'm so happy!

I have my party back! Next, my country!!!!

[Skidmore]

67. Oh, yeahhhh

Go, Mr. Meek.

Talking about the effects of the budget on the people as being personal and that protecting politicoes is not personal--it's business.

[libnnc]

68. Usually they speak late at night

I think they spoke like this last night. I've never seen these three on the floor during the day. Good move by the House Dem leadership.

[valerief]

69. Time to see the wizard and get some courage and heart.

Great line by Meek.

[stop the bleeding]

70. My FL reps are kicking ass.....

[skooooo]

71. Why is the place so empty?

[The Witch]

72. THIS IS NOT LIVE

I watched this same thing last night. It was like they got together later. It's exciting, but it's only dems in there.

[Sydnie]

76. But C-Span is showing it NOW

It's live to me.

[Greeby]

77. It says LIVE up top. They usually say so if it's recorded earlier

Plus, at night, they cut a lot of the lights in the House

[The Witch]

80. want me to tell you what happens next, then?

They will interrupt to say "culture of corruption" at some point.

Trust me, it ain't live. This was on at 10 pm last night.

It's still cool to listen, but it's not live. :)

[libnnc]

78. it says "Live" on my tv screen

usually if it's a replay they change the copy.

[RebelOne]

86. I am watching on the computer and it does not say live. n/t

[libnnc]

106. still says live on my tv. Somebody's goofed at Cspan.

[Skidmore]

112. Betcha Brian Lambs GOP buddies jump on him with cleats

for broadcasting this, particularly if it was something that happened late at night. No need for it to see the light of day.

[Skidmore]

73. Schultz--Rules in the House make us have to speak a certain

way but the people put us here to speak truth to power. We are here to reveal the truth.

Ryan-We have an obligation here. The Rs have created a welfare state for a very small group--corporations.

Someone take over--I can't see for the tears.

This is what I've been waiting to hear--not more DLC shit but the truth.

[Sydnie]

74. Ryan - Republican Corporate Welfare State!

Cutting school lunches here but giving it to Iraq and Big Oil and Drug companies!

[babylonsister]

75. Does anyone remember Tim Ryan's rant in the house a year

or two ago, RE: the war, I think? And if so, do you know where to find a link to it?

[Greeby]

79. Here ya go

http://homepage.mac.com/njenson/movies/timryanlow.html

It was from last year when they voted down Charlie Rangel's draft bill 400-2

[babylonsister]

81. You're a doll-thanks! nt

[lpbk2713]

82. They've really got their work cut out for them now ...... n/t

[Greeby]

83. Dreier butting in and getting pissy

:nopity:

[helderheid]

85. What an ASS HAT!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

90. The only good thing about Dreier appearing is that it shows the Bushbots

are very aware of how incredibly wonderful these three valiant Democrats are presenting their case. Each one of them has been spectacular!

[Pithy Cherub]

102. The republicans belatedly realize they are getting their

asses kicked! As A Californian who despises the republicans that are so horrid in this state - I applaud, Representatives Ryan, Meek and the Gentlewoman from Florida! :applause:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

105. As usual though, as I sit here as I often do while watching feel sad. How

many people know this is going on? Maybe 1% of 1% of our population????

[Pithy Cherub]

110. Yep. Now less even in Orange County, Cox Communications

is pre-empting C-SPAN 2 with the Dana Point City Council meetings. So even less will see it. :grr:

[libnnc]

84. oh goody Drier's hijacking our time

bastard

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

95. QUIT YIELDING YOUR TIME!!!

[stevedeshazer]

87. Dreier's spluttering

Ryan tearing him a new one.

[helderheid]

91. I cannot fathom how the Republicans can defend their un-American actions

[cynatnite]

96. It boggles the mind

After watching this, I don't see how anyone can be proud of being a republican. I would be ashamed.

[Norquist Nemesis]

97. A call from Rove caught him a little off guard

:rofl:

This is GREAT!!!

At any moment, the Democrats can say "reclaiming my time" and shut him down. Drieir keeps interrupting and trying to fillibuster. :rofl:

[Skidmore]

89. Someone on the other side take responsibility because

you are weakening the country--Ryan.

Dreier shows his smarmy self up and says they will respond.

Ryan-would you form a bipartisan independent commissiont for Katrina.

Pushes Dreier for commitment for a bipartisan committee to oversee Katrina.

Dreier talking crap and Ryan controls time and calls him on his definition of an "independent" committee.

[cynatnite]

93. Drier won't support a commission

no surprise there

[babylonsister]

101. He's also bloody rude! Keeps interupting as if the rules don't

apply to him. :mad:

[Norquist Nemesis]

103. Oh, now he has the floor for the next hour

I hope the Terrific Trio stays on the floor and keeps standing up to say "would the gentleman yield?"

I wonder if there are any rules against personal attacks on members? I'm betting they'll be overlooked and the attacks will be in 5...4...3...2...

[cynatnite]

104. Debbie got shut up for coming close to a personal attack on bush n/t

[Sydnie]

98. Debbie going after him now too!

As head of the rules committee, you are doing it too!

:woohoo:

[Skidmore]

99. Ryan cut Dreier of and yielded to Schultz. HA!

[Greeby]

100. oooooo

Schultz just called Dreier on using the Rules Committee to crush Dem amendments

[Peter Frank]

107. And the Yawnfest has Officially Begun... nt

[Norquist Nemesis]

109. Yup! Turned it off in the interest of saving energy

and sanity.

[helderheid]

111. I tried to listen ... really I did! Lasted about 5 minutes

[cynatnite]

113. Can someone tell Drier we're in a Walmart economy?

:eyes:

[tridim]

115. They're back! Live apparently.

Kendrick Meek is talking now.

[cynatnite]

116. This guy is a fantastic speaker!

[Peter Frank]

117. Excellent! nt

[helderheid]

119. Thanks! Back on!!!

[Skidmore]

118. Dreier's gone and Ryan and Schultz have resumed.

Talking about the budget and the debt and China and tax cuts.

Talking about "Washington Speak" and what it means in terms of the budget for ordinary people.

Tune in

http://play.rbn.com/play.asx?url=cspan/cspan/wmlive/cspan1v.asf&proto=mms?mswmext=.asx

[Sydnie]

121. He is amazing! Go Tim Go! n/t

[cynatnite]

123. So he didn't stay to defend his party or answer the others.... n/t

[Norquist Nemesis]

125. Thanks for the heads up! Larson's doing a great job too!

Pointing out how Democrats have been squashed at every turn by the one party regime of the publicons.

[Skidmore]

120. Schultz--we need to be taking care of the needs of those who

can't take care of themselves.

Ryan--there's a moral argument and an economic one. We need an educated, healthy kids to create wealth. It's an economic argument also.

[Peter Frank]

122. Heer's the C-Span streamlink...

I couldn't get it to work; someone pleaselet me know if they're successful.

http://www.c-span.org/watch/index.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

[Skidmore]

124. Meek-In there world everything's fine.

Pointing out only 4% of bills/amendments allowed before congress were Dem bills. Forget talk about bipartisanship.

[Roxy66]

126. Rep. John Larson is addressing the lack of coverage of the Dems in Media

Go Dems

[Roxy66]

127. Debbie Wassermann Schults is explaining how they cant author

their own bills, or are restricted....only one bill was open to the Dems

[Norquist Nemesis]

129. They're laying out how the Rs have been "quash"ing Dems

then going out to the public and saying they have no ideas.

[Peter Frank]

130. Larson basically said that...

the Republicans squash Democratic efforts and then condemn them for not having ideas -- outragious behavior by the majority!

[rodeodance]

132. The repug persistant 'talking points' have been sucessful (much to

my dismay).

[rodeodance]

133. i can only hope that people have their TV on listening.

[Skidmore]

131. This is too good to be true. How is it they are not

getting shut down.

OMG, talking about the think tanks, media outlets, 700 club, and attempts to quash the voices of Dems.

[rodeodance]

134. Did the Hourse close for the day?--If so--anyone can talk--this generally

takes place later in the day.

[rodeodance]

135. I think they have an hour.

[Skidmore]

139. They've been going on for well over an hour.

[Skidmore]

136. This needs to happen over and over at every opportunity.

LOL! Debbie--"The emporer is but naked."

[Peter Frank]

137. Debbie...

...really does speak for the people.

[Peter Frank]

138. The time is coming...

[stop the bleeding]

140. Love it - should have Fitz yanking on the other side of rope. n/t

[Peter Frank]

141. And now -- here's what's happening on Faux News...

[Peter Frank]

142. E-mail addy was given at close...

[e-mail]

[Vinca]

143. Meeks and Ryan had a tag team presentation the other night

that lasted for about an hour. It was equally amazing. They give me hope for the future.

[chat_noir]

144. "30 Something" Working Group

Official site: http://democraticleader.house.gov/30something/members.htm



Synopsis: For at least two hours tonight, Democrats stood up on the floor of the House calling the Bush Administration and the Republican Party on the carpet. These Junior Congresspeople, called the 30somethingdems, expressed the outrage and frustration that we voice here on dKos everyday. More than sound bites, they crafted a cogent, wide-ranging discussion on the pervasive secrecy, bold-faced lies and strong-arm tactics employed by the current Republicans running the White House and the Congress. The discussion was powerful.

The bottom line, according to Rep. Inslee, is that they have put the Republican Party over the interests of the American People. They are shakedown artists, giving money to those with money, twisting arms and ruining lives.


http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/11/1/214012/770

Congressional Record November 1:

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?dbname=2005_record&page=H9465&position=all

[Peter Frank]

145. Exlellent Info, Thanks... nt

[chat_noir]

146. can't take credit

All of those links were supplied by Daily Kos.