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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:16 PM
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McCain says Rove should be allowed to keep security clearance
On CNN now. Neat huh?

Don
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:18 PM
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1. They've got something awful on John.
Otherwise he is suffering several mini strokes.

What's he thinking?????!!!!!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:18 PM
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2. Either that or he still wants to be president
And he knows that he won't get the nomination unless he has the support from this group.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:19 PM
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6. He also said he doesn't think Bush should rule out a pardon for Libby n/t
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:20 PM
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7. I think they have something on him, too.
It's too bad. Funny how John is out peddling his book on CHARACTER, isn't it?

Peace.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:21 PM
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10. They don't have shit on him, he's a fucking Repuke.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:51 PM
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25. I agree, this is too much
Somebody needs to dig and figure out what it is so he can be set free. I cannot believe McCain is saying this shit of his own free will.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:08 PM
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28. Here's my theory....
I think John McCain is running for President.

And he knows that in order to do that, he needs to raise a lot of money. Specifically, money from the very same people who have given to the Bush Crime Team.

And he doesn't want to piss those potential donors off by speaking out against a Republican President. He wants to tow the party line, so the party will help him win the nomination.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:19 PM
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3. He's totally lost it!
He also said, when asked if it bothered him about the leaking of a CIA operative, that it bothered him that it's partisan politics. WTF!?
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politicaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:19 PM
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4. *pfft*
McCain...
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:19 PM
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5. Yeah so are McCain's new ads for Schwarzenegger's proposition
Edited on Thu Nov-03-05 09:20 PM by A-Schwarzenegger
77 in California. McCain is a thoroughgoing Repuke.
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oioioi Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:21 PM
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8. has Rove cut a deal to hang Cheney?
this is what it smells like.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:21 PM
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9. McCain is an asshat sellout.
He's prepping for 2008.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:23 PM
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11. No doubt.
McCain...have you no shame?
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:23 PM
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12. Why does this surprise anyone?
Edited on Thu Nov-03-05 09:25 PM by deadparrot
He's continued to cuddle up with these people who attacked his young daughter based on her skin color. He attacked a teenaged Chelsea Clinton for her looks. He's a fucking sellout politician.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:23 PM
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13. McCain has




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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:29 PM
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18. Wonderful quote in your byline
Hadn't heard that one before. Thanks for that!
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:24 PM
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14. I was about willing to give McCain a second chance...
Edited on Thu Nov-03-05 09:32 PM by cynatnite
He's appeasing the extreme right while trying to swing from the middle at the same time. McCain's coming across as weak as tissue paper.

on edit: I'm really disappointed in his reaction to the overseas CIA prisons. Weak! Weak! Weak!

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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:25 PM
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15. McCain is still a prisoner of war.
Only this time it's Iraq.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:19 PM
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30. he's a prisoner of his own ambition
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:26 PM
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16. McCain is one of them. He's a Neo-Con.
Of course he kisses the back end of any right winger. Why are so many here still suprised by this?
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:36 PM
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21. I think I am surprised because there were times in the past
that his thinking and communication sounded clear and sound to me (sorry no links)but I have memories of hearing him speak and thinking, wow, Republicans can make sense sometimes.

With me, its disappointment that there are NONE of them now that I think are worth maintaining as congressmen/women. There are none that are salvageable as politicians. Sad times for our two-party system and for our country that the balance or even illusion of balance has become lost.

Glad * didn't tout himself as a 'divider'. Where would we be then?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:28 PM
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17. Are they holding his daughter hostage in the basement of the White House?
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:33 PM
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20. McCain is calling attention to Rove's treason problem in a subtle way
He's keeping the question in play.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:30 PM
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19. He is just too close
for my trust.

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:54 PM
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26. If that isn't the poster for McCain's opponent...
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:45 PM
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23. Are you SERIES? This is HUGH!!!!11one..
:D
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Solo_in_MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:47 PM
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24. Its not like McCain gets any input to the matter anyway...
High level members of the EB get cleared automatically
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 09:58 PM
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27. Bush boy promised McCain he could have Rove for '08 IMHO
Edited on Thu Nov-03-05 09:59 PM by emulatorloo
what do you think the hugging and frosting licking was all about?

if Karl is discredited, no good for John. Who will smear George Allen's wife for him?

ON EDIT Grammar stuff
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 10:10 PM
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29. I'm sure he says the same about Judith Miller and Jimmy-Jeff Gannon
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-05-05 12:15 PM
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31. Link. With McCain talking about how he admires Bush
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0511/03/lkl.01.html

KING: As a Republican are you in, for want of a better word, embarrassed by the Scooter Libby indictment?

MCCAIN: First of all, I think he has a presumption of innocence until proven guilty, as everyone does.

KING: I said by the indictment.

MCCAIN: Yes, and I say I think he has the presumption of innocence.

KING: Of course.

MCCAIN: We ought to keep that in mind and I think he deserves his day in court. This whole thing is very distracting for the White House, for us in the Congress, for the American people when we really should be getting on issues such as the price of gas, climate change, deficit spending, immigration reform. It's very distracting. I hope that -- I am confident that Mr. Libby will get a fair trial.

KING: When you ran against President Bush, we all remember that historic South Carolina debate, which I moderated. Karl Rove had a lot to do behind the scenes in that what was regarded as a dirty campaign. He is still under investigation. There are some say that he should at least lose his security clearance. Do you think so?

MCCAIN: Just because someone is under investigation I don't think is a reason for that so no I wouldn't agree with that. Let me just make a quick point, Larry. You know and I'm sure that our viewers know that politics is a beanbag. It's a tough business. It was a tough race. It was a tough campaign and I enjoyed enormously feeling sorry for myself for about two weeks. You know feeling sorry for yourself is a lot of fun.

KING: Yes.

MCCAIN: But then I put it behind me and I moved on. You've got to put it -- the people of Arizona don't expect me to hold a grudge for something that happened four or five years ago and I don't hold a grudge and I move forward and I admire this president and I want to help him and we have a very big agenda for this country and I want to assist him in carrying out that agenda.

KING: Should he announce that there will be no pardons, if any are indicted in regard to this investigation?

MCCAIN: Well, I hate to tell the president what to do but I would but I don't think...

KING: Ah, you've done it before, John.

MCCAIN: Yes, well I'm sorry. I think -- I think it probably wouldn't be a bad idea PR wise. But suppose that -- suppose that someone is convicted and then evidence comes to light that they were wrongly convicted and that has happened from time to time and the president has committed not to -- not to pardon. I know this president well enough to tell you that he's not going to pardon somebody who has been declared guilty by a judgment of their peers.

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