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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:15 PM
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What the hell is "wealth redistribution"
????????
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Quetzal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:16 PM
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1. A game of poker?
:shrug:
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marbuc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:17 PM
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2. It's a age-old bogeyman
bantered about by conservatives, with the intent to color advocates of a progressive tax system as communists. AKA income restribution.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:19 PM
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3. Another example of Frank Luntz double-speak
sounds good though - don't it.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:21 PM
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11. WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!!
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:59 AM
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31. "GOOD!!!! " Is what I always say to gopers who whine about the rich tax
payers paying the most into the US treasury and supporting the US economy... they used to try to elicit SYMPATHY, until I started saying "GOOD, they're rich, they can afford it..."

heh heh
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:19 PM
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4. Wealth Redistrubution
is a RW code word for ending welfare and any social programs brought about by the New Deal. It is used interchangably with Socialism . I can also be used as an argument against raising the minimum wage or even National Health Care.

It's one of Limbaugh's favorite terms.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:20 PM
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5. Bush's tax cuts
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Mend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:20 PM
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6. something I believe in....through taxes and charities,
the have's give some up to the have-not's....so that the have-nots have at least the basic necessities of life. Seems right to me.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:20 PM
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7. Where repugs steal all the middle class income, and Iraqi oil?
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:21 PM
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8. It means "I've got mine but I'm not going to pay my fair share of tax"
It's the phrase the haves use to avoid having to pay a proportionately fair share of their windfalls toward the common good.

Selfish, stinking BASTARDS!
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:21 PM
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9. Where did you hear it?
:shrug:

Context is everything.
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GrantDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:24 PM
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15. O'Reilly
I hear O'Lielly harp about it from time to time.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 07:18 PM
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27. If you hear Dildo Boy rail about it, it must be a decent thing, huh?
:)
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:21 PM
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10. Robin Hood in Reverse
As practiced by the rich for centuries.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:22 PM
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12. What the ruling class has been doing for 30 years - collecting money and
redistributing it (to themselves, not you).
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:24 PM
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14. exactly
they claim that they are persecuted and forced to pay more than their share, meanwhile they make money hand over fist on the backs of people everyday and don't think twice about it.
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:23 PM
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13. according to any macroeconomics course, one of the functions of government
Usually done through taxation and transfer payment. Done correctly, it can provide economic stability (by promoting spending, and taking advantage of the monetry multiplier) and a more just society (by preventing vast inequalities and promoting a stable and large middle class). Ususally, though, it's what Repulicans say when they want to whine about taxes and welfare.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:27 PM
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20. Well, those inequalities are getting worse at present
There has rarely (if not never?) been a time in US history where the gap between the richest and the poorest is as wide.
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 07:01 PM
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24. which is why we need to elect people who actually understand how
the economy works to the house. If you know any good, Dem macroeconomics professors, encourage them to stand for office.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 07:21 PM
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28. I hate to break it, but they're all either agnostic or conservative on...
Edited on Thu Nov-03-05 07:30 PM by Selatius
the point here at my school. My macroeconomics professor I had seems decidedly against raising things such as the minimum wage, but he does admit that to get the economy going again requires increasing aggregate demand for goods and services, which is usually done through wealth redistribution.

I would say the best solution is to cut taxes for the poorest and increase them on the richest. Tax revenue from those who are well off could then logically be used to train workers, educate children, provide health care, invest in technology, and all of this has a beneficial effect on the economy. You have more educated/knowledgeable workers, jobs created as a result of those investments, and a more stable economy when contrasted to one that is wholly unregulated. (See Chilean economy under Pinochet) Of course, this is old fashioned Keynesian economics I'm talking about here. What I said has already been tried. That was known as the New Deal.

The only compromise I could come up with on minimum wage is to pass a law so that minimum wage floats according to inflation or the national average cost of living instead of letting Congress control it.
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 02:41 AM
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33. I was being (mostly) tongue in cheek.
but I think we need to pay down the national debt, then go hardcore Keynesian.
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:24 PM
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16. Just a fancy way of sayin' "THIS IS A STICKUP!"
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:25 PM
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17. Wealth redistribution involves an self proclaimed elite group.......
that manipulates the 'system' in order to accumulate ALL the wealth and leave the masses with next to nothing to share. This is the major goal of bush and his henchman.
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drb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:25 PM
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18. It is, in fact, one of the basic tenants of true Christianity.
"Sell all you have, give it to the poor, and follow me."

And if anyone starts telling you that's wrong, well.... "by their fruits shall ye know them."
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:26 PM
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19. This:


When your kids (and mine) have to pay that back (plus interest).

You do know the rich and the corporations won't have to cough up a dime.....
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:30 PM
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21. Got to Follow the Bible!
Edited on Thu Nov-03-05 06:31 PM by RobertSeattle
I bet these passages get quickly overlooked over in the modern mega churches:

All that believed were together, and had all things in common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
(Acts 2:44-45)

There was not a needy person among them, for as many as owned lands or houses sold them and brought the proceeds of what was sold. They laid it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to each as any had need. There was a Levite, a native of Cyprus, Joseph, to whom the apostles gave the name Barnabas (which means “son of encouragement”). He sold a field that belonged to him, then brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.
(Acts 4:34-37)
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:41 PM
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22. Is it pushing money up hill?
Who will be our Charles Dickens and write about us when we are all poor but the very few on the top. Interesting to go food shopping. When I had kids in the 60's every one went out will full baskets. When have you seen a full basket in the super market? Odd things are going on. Lots of small homes being built here and lots or very large homes being built along the coast. With these new cuts in Congress we should have some more hard times. What a mess Bush has made.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 06:52 PM
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23. We call it fair wages, they call it "wealth redistribution"
Edited on Thu Nov-03-05 06:52 PM by Lefty48197
If they're paying somebody more than $5 per hour, they feel they're being victimized by a conspiracy.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 07:06 PM
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25. For Bush: massive tax breaks to multimillionares paid for by everyone else
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 07:07 PM
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26. It used to be when Libby was a kid..and a milkman could put
his progeny thorough college and law school..but that is so 60's...now it is the middle class paying for everything and the rich getting a free ride.....why do you ask?
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 07:25 PM
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29. 'Blimey! This redistribution of wealth is trickier than I thought!'
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 12:56 AM
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30. Wealth should be redistributed every generation. Otherwise you
get insane cabals in control of your democracy.

And when any cabal (religious, financial) as more power than government.. then they try and make themselves monopolies, and hide information (the only thing that really makes humans rich) so only they can profit on it. Called marketing and the like. Or like the Catholic Church in the middle ages.. nobody is allowed to think except for them.

Basically too much power corrupts.

And as nice as it is to run a good business, some of your wealth needs to go to government for programs to keep the people in your community thriving too.

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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-04-05 01:01 AM
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32. "Capitalism" is another word for this process. (n/t)
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