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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 11:21 AM
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Which dems voted for the IWR and which ones voted against it?
If anyone's got the list I'd love to see it. I don't want to vote for someone that voted for the war.
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 11:23 AM
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1. Me too, I hope everyone starts looking at that nm
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 11:27 AM
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2. The resolution didn't take us to war. Bush's VIOLATION of the resolution
and its guidelines started the war.

Blaming a resolution that should have PREVENTED war helps Bush off the hook. With the IWR set up as the bad guy, the spin has become that Bush had no guidelines to follow.....UNTRUE....his determination that war was necessary was supposed to come AFTER weapons inspections and diplomatic efforts were exhausted.
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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 11:47 AM
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4. my question is, why did certain dems not find enough evidence to vote...
for it while others did?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 11:58 AM
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7. Some of those voting for were the guys stuck negotiating for guidelines
Edited on Thu Nov-03-05 12:08 PM by blm
and didn't have the luxury of voting the resolution down altogether. Their job, which was thankless, not only gave guidelines but also restricted Bush from going into Iran and Syria immediately after taking Baghdad which he also wanted.

There was an honor to those who were negotiating for that better resolution, but the media in their haste to declare the IWR as a great victory for Bush or a blank check, completely ignored that Bush even had any guidelines to meet, or any restrictions on what he REALLY wanted going in.

That's why the media won't hold him accountable for violating those guidelines. They would have to report that they misled the country into believing that the IWR meant full support for war on Bush's terms.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 11:31 AM
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3. GiYF
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 11:50 AM
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5. You can't just go with the list and not consider things said later
IMHO. For instance, Rockefeller who is ranking member of the intelligence committee voted in favor of it. But he's been on the TV telling the audience that he also later went to the floor and said his vote was a mistake that he regretted.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 11:53 AM
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6. Anyway...here's the vote
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 107th Congress - 2nd Session

as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate


Vote Summary

Question: On the Joint Resolution (H.J.Res. 114 )
Vote Number: 237 Vote Date: October 11, 2002, 12:50 AM

Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Joint Resolution Passed

Vote Counts:
YEAs 77
NAYs 23
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 12:05 PM
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8. you forgot the slimeballs in the House of Representatives n/t
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 12:19 PM
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9. Sorry *sigh*
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2002/roll455.xml

Yeas Nays PRES NV
Republican 215 6 2
Democratic 81 126 1
Independent 1
TOTALS 296 133 3

61% of Democrats voted NO.

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-03-05 01:40 PM
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10. WE JUST WITNESSED HOW CHENEY AND LIBBY FAKED SADDAM NUKE CASE
TO SELL THEIR FAKE WAR TO THE CONGRESS AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE and what you choose to talk about is blaming Democrats?

I don't get it.

This is Bush/Cheney's War. B U S H / C H E N E Y. They wanted it, and they did every illegal stinking thing that they could do to bamboozle congress and the American people.

For Dems that voted against IWR, good for them

For Dems that voted for IWR, they were sold a bill of goods with some shiny fake CIA bullshit concocted by Dick Cheney et al. that Saddam had nukes.

This is Bush/Cheney's War. B U S H / C H E N E Y. They wanted it, and they did every illegal stinking thing that they could do to bamboozle congress and the American people.
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