"The Democrats have no ideas"

[Roxy66]

Have you noticed this same point being made by every media talking-head on the television. It's like all the journalists circulate their own talking points and we hear it 24/7. What is the deal? We have very crystal clear ideas and values!!!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. If they say it enough times, it'll become true.

That's what they always do.

[Options Remain]

2. i just say "bullshit"

whenever that particular talking point comes up.

TearForger

[whatever4]

3. Do you wonder if the common source is the WH?

I'm just sayin'

[snippy]

12. The common source is the RNC, which of course is run by the White House..

The RNC faxes and emails the media with talikng points constantly and the media just parrots the RNC.

[unblock]

4. a slogan is worth a thousand ideas.

at least, that's the way it works in today's msm....

[VaYallaDawg]

14. Precisely.

That's the way they've been able to apply the marketing strategy of branding. If you associate the word "liberal" with enough negatives sooner or later it will stick - Ronald Reagan left us with that legacy.

[EFerrari]

24. Yes, Reagan fathered this Culture of Corruption.

:)

[bpilgrim]

5. too bad we can't say the same about the neoCONs

they're planning on taking over the world :scared:

peace

[Walt Starr]

6. Tehre is a simple way to answer that charge

"Of course we have ideas, but every time we're asked about our ideas, the talking heads who ask the question jump in and talk over us before we are ever allowed to answer!"

[babylonsister]

7. We should all media-blast the MSM with this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2214013

Anyone up for a bit of activism?

[Roxy66]

15. Yes, lets do it.....I'm sick of the dems being shut out of the discussion

I watch C-Span...and everyday the Dems are throwing out Amendments and Proposals....but the Repugs just shut them down and they never come to the table.

[ClassWarrior]

16. Do you really consider those whores "mainstream??"

Please DON'T CALL THEM THE "MSM." Call them what they are: The Corporate Media.

:rant:

Great idea, by the way. That thread is awesome.

NGU.

[bryant69]

8. Hmmmmm

"The Democrats have no ideas." is semantically the same as "I'm a lazy asshole who didn't bother to look up what the Democrats ideas are."

Or at least it looks that way to me.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Burried News]

9. How 's this for an idea - take the government back, Nationalize

the Oil Companies and reinstate the Sherman AntiTrust act on the rest of the Cartels and Holding Companies.

[tridim]

10. Psst media.. Remember Kerry's major speech from a few weeks back?

I thought not.

[Az]

11. Take a look at the top 50 threads in DU

We may have a lot of ideas but we don't talk about them. We talk about the ideas we don't like. We talk about not being republicans. Our leaders talk about not being republicans but supporting ideas that those that voted for republicans last time might consider safe.

If you want the world to know the things you stand for then you gotta talk about them. You have to work to make them understand not only that you do stand for them but why they should stand for them too.

The media may have this one wrong but it's not their fault. Our leaders and even we have not spoken up for the things we do believe in. Our leaders have fallen to the sway of the polls and we have fallen to the chaos of the grumbling mob.

[indigo32]

29. I gotta disagree with you somewhat AZ

Our ideas don't get covered. Contraversy gets covered, some of their ideas get covered cuz they are good with catch phrases and also in charge, but mostly contraversy gets covered. I blame the MSM for alot of this.

[Az]

34. MSM Is a tool

We need to figure out how to use it. The right figured it out. We can figure it out.

If we stand up and define ourselves better the MSM will be forced to play along. If they don't, more and more people will see them as partisan hacks. And they will be forced to shift to stay market positioned.

The same problem is prevalent here in DU. Controvercy sticks to the top while progressive ideas sink like stones. It's going to take the same sort of effort here in DU to change the nature of the process as it is to change the MSM.

So get loud and consistant about the things we stand for. Make some noise. Be seen standing up for things. Start here in DU. Drown out the constant chorus of hate directed at all things Bush. Sure there is a lot of hate deserved there. But I hope we are known as something beyond just hating Bush.

[snippy]

13. All democrats need to begin to taunt those who say they have no agenda.

Democrats need to say something like "Only someone who is totally ignorant and completely uninformed would ever say such a thing. Or someone who is lying."

[Roxy66]

19. When ever a Dem is on and this talking point is thrown out we need to

stop them in their tracks and point out that they, the Media , just arent listening

[Az]

21. Then start talking about the things we stand for

If we make it so loud that the media can no longer ignore it then they will have to change their tune. When it is so part of our identity that people can't help but think of the things we stand for when someone says Democrat then the media will have to follow along.

[Sparkly]

17. Democrats have no ideas that the MEDIA will BOTHER to REPORT!!

:mad: They've been saying this one since Chimpy took office. :mad:

[mzmolly]

18. I've noticed it. I guess this is the best they've got these days?

:eyes:

[EFerrari]

20. "or principals or convictions". To which Jon Stewart replied

"No, you'll get the convictions."

:)

[Loonman]

22. I've been saying that for years

Finally Dr. Dean as DNC chair is finally doing something.

[formerrepuke]

23. What they mean is that we do not have THEIR ideas: We do not believe

in pre-emptive military action (especially when the evidence supporting it is faked); we do not believe in gutting social security; we do not believe in gutting public education; we do not believe in tax cuts for the wealthy; we do not believe that a woman's body is government property.. etc, etc, etc.

[prodigal_green]

25. That is a bizarre thing for the pukes to say in response

to rule 21, as it was invoked in order to investigate how we were mislead into war.

How is investigating poor intelligence handling NOT an idea?

Anyway, I'd prefer no ideas to the neo-convicts one idea: screw the poor.

[Roxy66]

26. We need to come out with a complete over-haul for the nation.

Any suggestions for a catch-phrase type of header for a "Democratic Plan" for the Country?

[Ravenseye]

27. It's because our ideas are better

They don't want people even THINKING we have ideas, becuase if people actually think about their positions on issues, they agree with us and our ideas the vast majority of the time, upwards of 70% of Americans.

No so instead of saying 'They have bad ideas' which would give our ideas play and make people think "hmm but that's what I think" they say we have no ideas.

[mmonk]

28. The media has no soul.

History will condemn them. My hatred for them is true and ongoing. They are enemies of American democracy.

[indigo32]

30. I swear I am SOOOO sick of hearing that

it's complete and total bull.

[Armstead]

31. Dems have plenty of ideas

We just have a hard time agreeeing on them. }(

[A Simple Game]

32. We need to say, "if that is true, and it is not, it would still be ok

because our old ideas were pretty good compared to the Republican's new ideas."

[goclark]

33. Put It Back On Them!

I agree, we let them slide on that one.

The response should be...


WE are the party with the PLAN that will benefit the majority of Americans for their Safety,for bringing our troops home(and that we really need to get)for Social Security and Health Care for ALL !


The Regressives have a PLAN to take us back to the times of George Washington! They have a BIG plan,that they have implemented with a BIG Tax cut for the wealthy.

Our PLAN is to help all Americans by -----!

Regressives have a PLAN that is destroying America's rich environment.

Our plan is to -----


and on and on, we do need a 1,2,3 PLAN that Americans can clearly understand.