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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 02:11 PM
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Imus to Andrea Mitchell: Do you think Tim Russert might be lying?
Andrea Mitchell: Oh no! Not Tim Russert!!! He honest as the day is long Don. You know that.

As the producer switches back and forth from a picture of Russert that looks like a big head of a pig and Imus sitting there snickering to himself with a shit eating grin on his face.

Anyone catch that this morning? I am still tickled about it and I hate Imus.

Don
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 02:12 PM
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1. Except if Russert is lying, then LIbby isn't
I'd prefer to think of Tiny Tim as the honest one, frankly.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 02:22 PM
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5. I don't think russert's testimony is critical.
If I read the indictment correctly there was plenty of evidence that Loose Scooter Libbey was aware of Mrs. Wilson's status before talking to the media about it and Russert was simply some of the corroborating evidence. The key fact is Libbey's false and/or misleading testimony to the Grand Jury.

Loose Scooter Libbey: 30 years in the slammer to protect nobody from no crime.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 02:32 PM
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6. Psst....which in three out of five counts was about his
conversation with Russert. Its simple, if you believe that Russet is a liar, then you believe that Libby is innocent on those three counts. If you believe Matt Cooper is a liar as well, then you believe Libby is innocent of all charges.

Folks, this isn't rocket science.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:10 PM
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11. As others have pointed out
there is lots of supporting evidence that you can either view as corroborating Russert's testimony or as being corroborated by Russert's testimony. The point is that the case does not hang solely on the credibility of either Russert or Cooper.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:11 PM
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12. We'll agree to disagree.
The lies were made when discussing those two phone calls. The corroborating evidence is the testimony of WH and VEEP staff.
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Neocondriac Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 02:14 PM
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2. Mrs Greenspan...
has turned into quite the propaganda pez dispenser. Retire bitch.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 02:19 PM
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3. Haaaaaaaaaaaa! Thx for the laugh!!
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 08:41 PM
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20. Andrea Greenspan's face is stretched soooooo tight...
... I can't wait to see it snap one of these days.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:24 PM
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13. dunno, seems reasonable to me to believe Russert over Libby
especially as Fitz apparently has stuff that backs up Russert over Libby.

and god forbid you think I am defending Mrs. Greenspan. Because, yeah, she should retire.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 04:18 PM
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16. MAKE UP!!!
I saw her on Russert's show this weekend, gee think she is on his side??? anyway one of her main points was that this can't be about the war in general because the Dems didn't question it either...

not that they had subpoena power or the ability to call hearings (I think)

and I don't seem to recall the "Micthell Minute" in which she (that's really all it would have taken) refutes all of the WHIG's nonsensical talking points and made sure everyone knew what the "shelf life" of each WMD were. But then maybe I missed her extensive exposes.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 02:20 PM
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4. A few seconds later Imus told her he was kidding.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 02:36 PM
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8. Too late. The "talking point" is out of the old bag, so to speak. eom
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 02:36 PM
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7. Yea, not only does Russert tattle on his colleagues, now his
honesty will be questioned. Oh yea, Russert wants to refocus the public debate BIG TIME.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:08 PM
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10. see my post 9
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 08:12 PM
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18. I never said he lied. I said the genie is out of the bottle. Imus
said it. Watch it become a talking point. Russert's credibility is going to be questioned big time. And Liar may be the best smear they use. He knows it. Refocus, refocus, refocus.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:07 PM
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9. Don't let your hatred of Russert
Blind you to my hatred of Libby.

:toast:

PS Russert isnt lying. He didn't tell Libby about plame. There's lots of supporting evidence in that indictment that Libby is going to have a hard time squirming out of.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:28 PM
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14. I think we are going to find out exactly who has been lying...
...when this is all over with.

Don
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 03:38 PM
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15. it is gonna be a hell of a show . . . .EOM
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 04:25 PM
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17. Imus knows that Russert's
testimony will bury Libby. He has been making variations on this same joke since it came out that Libby said Russert was his source; Russert had already made clear he was not.

The Russert story is extremely important, because it offers strong evidence that shortly after the leak became a legal issue, Libby made up a detailed lie that he was confident would not be exposed ... because he did not expect Ashcroft to pursue it with reporters. This creates evidence of "consciousness of guilt," something the talk with Cooper does not do.

Russert is considered (though not on DU) as the most trusted and reliable journalist in America today. He has zero motive to lie about his talk with Libby. Imus is absolutely correct in that Tim's testimony will convict Libby. And Libby knows it, too.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 08:32 PM
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19. Is Andrea Mitchell stupid or complicit? n/t
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