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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:18 AM
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Requesting help shooting down a RW talking point.
The talking point: "Joe Wilson outed his wife as a CIA Agent."

I would like to compile the most thorough rebuttal to this as possible. Thanks for anything you can list (with sources, if possible).
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:20 AM
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1. The burden of proof is on anyone making such an idiotic claim.
Edited on Mon Oct-31-05 10:27 AM by BurtWorm
How can anyone respond to it if they don't explain what they mean?
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:31 AM
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10. Agreed. Make them do their own homework.
Or, failing that, tell them to shut up.

Works every time. Funny how demanding proof/truth will do that.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:20 AM
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2. Why BOTHER? Tell them to email Fitz, pronto, and Bush, too,
since the FRIGGING BA's JUSTICE DEAPRTMENT evidently decided that's not the case.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:20 AM
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3. Since both the CIA and the FBI disagree, the burden of proof ...
... is on the delusional moran who'd make such an insane claim.
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:22 AM
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4. Wasnt this a claim by
G Gordon Liddy. Consider the source.
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:24 AM
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5. He also sprinkles arsenic on his own pizza
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:25 AM
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6. Fitzgerald-VIDEO-what he said about her classified status
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:26 AM
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7. You do this (from another board, today):

IDIOT: No, Joe Wilson outed his wife even before the trip to Niger....on his personal website and in conversations with neighbors. And all that bitch was at the time was a low level staff member and analist who sat on her fat cunt in an office shuffling trash.


Moi: Links or retraction. Thank you.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:28 AM
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:30 AM
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9. Ask them why they hate America, then show them this.
"Valerie Wilson was a CIA officer. In July 2003, the fact that Valerie Wilson was a CIA officer was classified. Not only was it classified, but it was not widely known outside the intelligence community.

Valerie Wilson's friends, neighbors, college classmates had no idea she had another life.

The fact that she was a CIA officer was not well- known, for her protection or for the benefit of all us. It's important that a CIA officer's identity be protected, that it be protected not just for the officer, but for the nation's security.

Valerie Wilson's cover was blown in July 2003. The first sign of that cover being blown was when Mr. Novak published a column on July 14th, 2003.

But Mr. Novak was not the first reporter to be told that Wilson's wife, Valerie Wilson, Ambassador Wilson's wife Valerie, worked at the CIA. Several other reporters were told.

In fact, Mr. Libby was the first official known to have told a reporter when he talked to Judith Miller in June of 2003 about Valerie Wilson."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/28/politics/28text-fitz.html?pagewanted=all

Ask them why Republicans would rather lie to support their party than accept the truth and support their country. Ask them why they put Party above God and Country and Truth. Then spit on them.

You won't change their minds, because they have no minds. They are driven by ego, and have no idea that there is a world outside of their tiny, deluded minds. So don't waste time on them. If there's an afterlife, they'll pay for their sins. If not, why should you spend a moment in Hell trying to solve their emotional problems?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:40 AM
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11. Perfect. Check this out, too.
When an idiot (Haig) was trying to say this on the Blitzer special. Wolf asked for proof - he had none.

Go here - and look for Haig: http://www.canofun.com/blog/default.asp
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:45 AM
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13. Thanks. That's a great response. n/t
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-05 10:41 AM
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12. How did he do it? By putting himself in the public eye?
So, why wasn't she outted when he stood up to Saddam Hussein, before the cameras, with a noose around his neck?
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