What's really disturbing is how many Republicans

[LZ1234]

support what they deep down know is wrong just because it's the Republican Party. So what that says is their first loyalty is with their political party, not to our country and what's good for our country as a whole. Sometimes I think we should exist as 2 different countries.

[kurth]

1. Same reason abused women don't want to leave their asshole husbands

or abused men don't want to leave their nasty wives

[KittyWampus]

16. Low self esteem?

[malaise]

2. That is not surprising

what is suprising is that they are the people screaming about the ten commandments, while the notion of truth does not enter their pathetic lives. From their perspective, black people taking food from stores during a crisis is a crime, but lying to a grand jury is not when it is one of them. But why is anyone surprised when slaughtering innocent Iraqis in their own homeland in an illlegal war is pleasing to their god.

Edit - gr.

[meow2u3]

18. It's not what's done; it's who does it

That's the bottom line as far as repukes are concerned.

[A Simple Game]

21. Harsh perspective.

But sadly it is all true.

[jwirr]

22. One of the ten commandments is "Thou shalt not bear false witness".

[still_one]

3. isn't that the truth

or the best reason I like is that everyone does it...

[Kierkegaard]

4. I feel the same way.

In trying to sort out how some people can blindly adhere to a position despite the nagging interference of reality, I can only conclude that the solution is a complete physical separation of the two parties.

[stepnw1f]

5. That's Why They Need to Go

In order to even have a debate, you have to come to an agreement on the facts. That's what they use to avoid dialogue. There will never be a compromise as long as they deny facts. They know this....

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

6. Bottom line to me is that they're all hypocrites.

My father told me years ago that the Repukes were the party of "do as I say, not as I do".

Truer words were never spoken...

[jedr]

19. And my father told me;

"There has never been a republican that did a damn thing for the working man". When I see broken down houses with Bush signs still in front of them I wonder when they will wake up?

[KG]

7. yep.

i've never seen that kind of attitude on DU. :eyes:

[Skittles]

12. come on

there simply is no comparison - I can guarantee you I would never support a Democrat doing this much harm to America - NEVER

[skids]

8. Well, there's a problem with that.

Suppose all the asshat repugs got their own country. They would then proceed to run the economy into the ground, and if they couldn't manage to institute some form of slavery to keep the elite afloat, they would then have only their other favorite option: military agression to extort and seize resources.

So I agree with the line I heard a comedian opening for Steven Wright use a decade or so ago:

People say "if you don't like this country, why don't you leave?"
I say "Because I don't want to be victimized by its foreign policy!"

[A Simple Game]

24. military aggression to extort and seize resources.

You forget there are now only Republicans in the new country.

Republicans don't serve in the military.

They would be left with having to steal it.

[skids]

31. They'd just hire mercs. Or immigrants. n/t

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. Amp it up. Back them into rhetorical corners. Make 'em look ridiculous

Amp it up. Back them into rhetorical corners. Make them say something ridiculous. Then walk away. Part of the art is knowing when to stop.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. US of C

[sproutster]

11. I'm stealing your line :D

My new response to Repubs:

Grow some balls and put your country before your party.

[BrklynLiberal]

13. They aren't brainwashed or anything.......

"George Bush is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life."

[A Simple Game]

25. you forgot brilliant.

[roguevalley]

14. idolators

[Child_Of_Isis]

15. I think the pukes

should finance the liberals move to Canada. Get us out of their hair. :woohoo:

[C_U_L8R]

20. come on rapture

i'm praying with em for the rapture
so sweet jesus will come take em all away
and the rest of us can, thank god, be
left behind in peace.

[calmblueocean]

35. If everyone talking about moving to Canada had moved to Ohio...

...Kerry would be president today. Just a thought.

[indepat]

17. When one's entire agenda is based on duplicity, mendacity, and greed,

one must keep up the reichous sanctimony and hypocrisy.

[ThoughtCriminal]

23. Our Strategy: Make them feel stupid

when they parrot the pathetic talking points they've been handed.

It's hard to get through to the ones who really are that dumb (aka: Jr's base) but the fear of humiliation can overcome even the strongest party loyalty. I know several who just don't want to talk about Bush anymore because it's just too embarrassing.

I'd like to see the results of the polling question "Who did you vote for in 2004?". I'll bet not much more than 40% would admit voting Bush.

[Rex]

26. Cons don't believe they are wrong.

A HUGH number of Republicans believe everything Boosh says and does. They don't watch what we watch or care about the same things we do. Welfare cuts right before Thanksgiving? Sure! Tax increases for those in charge? Why not! If God didn't intend for them to be successful and powerful than why are they? Most of my neighbors think this way.

[johnnyrocket]

27. It's outrageous, they simply say "I support Bush...

...and I hope Libby gets off."

What? No concern for crimes or a fair society. I swear its a cult, a dangerous cult.

Disgusting RW talking points:

CIA was against Bush, trying to take Bush down
Wilson was out of control, trying to take down Bush.
This prosecution is trivial and all politics.
He's in trouble for talking to reporters.
Plame wasn't a secret spy and everyone knew.

[SOS]

A theory on Republican Bush worship

Seven signs of a cult:

1) A centralized form of leadership that rules with unquestioned authority
a) Bush is always right

2) A body of convictions, beliefs, and practices set forth boldly as "the truth"
a) "we're fighting them there, so we don't have to fight them here"

3) A compelling presentation of the group vision to prospects that is inviting and challenging
a) all of your problems can be blamed on "undesirables". Only we are "real Americans".

4) A series of manipulative socializing sessions to instill psychological dependence on the group
a) welcome to our fundamentalist church. Bush campaign literature available.

5) A definable process of group dynamics used to unethically control and manipulate members
a) if you question anything Bush does, you are a "traitor".

6) A history of abuses of authority by group leaders freely using deception and fear tactics
a) we're spreading freedom! Orange alert!

7) A history of psychological abuses of group members that destroy lives
a) please don't ask us about health care costs, veterans benefits, bankruptcy bill, social security piratization, Davis-bacon, minimum wage, inflation, petroleum profiteering or why we're in Iraq.

[bluedawg12]

28. Yea, they don't care about the country- very cultish- write them off

I don't even want to persuade any freepers, they are lost to us.

I thinl we need to get the vote out from the rest of the coutnry that does not vote and is apathetic- a voter drive.

[Lexingtonian]

29. They live in a different country than we do

and a lot of their patriotism revolves around green pieces of paper and a set of 19th century misunderstandings of what the country is and should be.

[against all enemies]

30. Good Republicans = Bad Americans. They aren't interested in

America's best interest.

[moondust]

32. True.

That's how totalitarians are.

[in_cog_ni_to]

33. That's my dream. A Democratic Republic country and a Repuke Country.

How sweet would that be? Let them pollute their own air and water, cut down all their trees, kill all their birds and animals, go to their own churches and pray in their own schools, they wouldn't have a right to judge women who have abortions, they wouldn't have to constantly whine about having to take care of those damn poor people. They could be "Gay Free", they would have no welfare system, no minimum wage, no workers rights, no 40 hour work week, no Social Security, no affordable health care, no Medicare, no civil liberties and they would leave me the hell alone! It would be PURE HEAVEN. A country with no repukes. *sigh* IF ONLY. :(

[calmblueocean]

34. The liberal case for federalism

I've been thinking about this a lot since the last election.

Traditionally, 'states rights' have been a right wing talking point, but more and more I'm thinking that there's a pretty strong liberal case for it. Blue states are the ones contributing the overwhelming majority of federal taxes, which means it's liberals in New York, Los Angeles, Portland, and Minneapolis that are paying for the war in Iraq, paying for Bush's Medicare giveaway, paying for all kinds of infrastructure in the red states. Blue states pay for 46 cents of every dollar spent in Mississippi, which means New York gays are paying to build public courthouses that won't recognize their right to marriage. What if there was a better way?

What if we just disempowered the federal government? Let the states make decisions on domestic matters? We could still collectively offer infrastructure assistance to poorer states, but we'd be able to tell Mississippi that if they wanted money from us to keep their highways in repair, they'd have to agree to our terms. Then they could make the choice. Their rhetoric would finally be in tune with their actions.

In some ways it's a harsh approach, but can anyone look at the past five years and say that those politics haven't been harsh? What if we made a law that any military action lasting more than a year would have to be ratified by the states each year?

Maybe getting rid of the federal gov't isn't such a bad idea after all.

[tsuki]

36. Those are the Conservates. The Moderates are bailing big-time.