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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:01 AM
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Scooter will fall on sword for 1 year sentence.
Edited on Sat Oct-29-05 06:16 AM by CanOfWhoopAss
Scooter is not going to give anyone up. It'll take 2 years to convict him. I'm sure Cheney has conveyed that he will be pardoned on the eve of the Chimperor's last day in office.

So then what is left? You have to keep chipping away at the base. If you are disappointed that they didn't cut off the head don't be. If you take out the legs the head will fall.
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:15 AM
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1. What do you suppose...
his compensation was for ruining his reputation and going down in history as the one who brought down the * administration? (I hope, I hope, I hope!) I couldn't find what the going price was for sacrificial lambs, these days.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:20 AM
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15. So far,
he's been thrown under the bus. Additional charges may be coming depending on developments in the case. Libby seems lost either way he goes. If the defense figures that out, he may turn.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:17 AM
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2. If he's smart
He'll plead guilty to one count in exchange for his cooperation.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:17 AM
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3. I do not see Fitzgerald giving him a deal for 1 year.
He wants much more!! He can get it easily through the trial for sure. No such cakewalk will be on the table. Fitzgerald is taking this extremely serious!

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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:19 AM
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4. 2 years to convict + Bush Pardon = 1 Year sentence (nt)
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:30 AM
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6. I disagree.....
Edited on Sat Oct-29-05 06:31 AM by liberalnurse
Fitzgerald wants the truth. Libby will have to give up Cheney for any deal. It's no skin of Fritz's ass to go to trial, he is well prepared. Fritz has set the bar high....his integrity is impeccable.
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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:13 AM
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12. Yeah but Bush can pardon without Fritz's consent.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 08:29 AM
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23. Bush won't pardoning anyone involved in this investigation
because it is an investigation of his own people. The abuse of power would be to great for even Congress to ignore and Bush no longer has the political capitol to get away with it.

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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 08:52 AM
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28. He will on the eve of his term's end.
I think Gerald Ford handed out a few pardons and he didn't wait until the eve of his/Nixon's term.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 09:52 AM
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34. Martha Stewart needs to keep an eye on his
punishment. After all she did less than scooter and went to prison. I would be looking to see if his ass did some time and would be raising hell about special prosecutions and persecutions...
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:26 AM
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5. Agreed. The squeeze play tain't gunna werk:
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:36 AM
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8. No way......this is going the distance if Libby
does not give up Cheney. Fritzgerald is dug in!
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:31 AM
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16. How can it go the distance if Scooter pleads out? n/t
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:57 AM
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18. A plea bargain is a two-way street....
It is a negotiation, not a Christmas wish list for Libby. Fitzgerald said he will get the facts and continue the investigation. He has to agree to the plea terms or no deal. He wants Cheney because Cheney is the leak. He can get Cheney, suspect #1 as the deliberate leaker through the trial....so why in heck would he stop with an empty plea bargain? He won't. Trust me, he won't. He is outraged about the crimes against America and how outing this agent has harmed all of us. He will not stop.
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 08:05 AM
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19. First day of trial,
Libby stands up and changes his plea from not guilty to guilty. There is nothing Fitz can do to stop this. There is no negotiation or deal. The trial is bypassed and the penalty phase begins. Period. End of story. Where am I wrong?
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 08:27 AM
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20. If so, he gets 30 years of hard time.....
That is his motivation not to piss around.
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 08:29 AM
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21. Not if he knows a pardon is in his future. n/t
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 08:38 AM
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25. That concept is way too hypothetical......
If it did occur,by that time, the leg of this crime family would have already been amputated and rendered useless as a result of the indictment events. Essentially, I'm saying, so what, Libby will never be effect ever again. He has been neutered and stained for life.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 08:43 AM
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26. I don't know...
Ollie North and Poindexter carried on just fine...unfortunately.
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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 08:56 AM
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29. Yeah and so did Liddy and he servered 5 years for Watergate.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 08:56 AM
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30. Okay, just roll over and not see the power of this
collection of indictments. I am far, far from being pessimistic here. I have no control over fretful skeptics. I suggest that one looks at Fitzgerald's' statement and press conference once again and realize, this man is here for the whole enchilada.

This is bigger than Watergate.
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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 09:03 AM
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31. If you're right I'll
Edited on Sat Oct-29-05 09:04 AM by CanOfWhoopAss
kiss your @$$ and give you a week to draw a crowd. Here's to hoping I have to pucker up. :beer:
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 09:46 AM
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33. Okay, lets shake on it.....
:thumbsup:

I don't have any cute emotion-icons.....O8)
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 08:48 AM
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27. That is precisely the subject of my thread:
How * can sidestep this mess by promising a few pardons and placating the press thus hacking out the cancer.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:34 AM
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7. What ever he will get richer and end up with more power
Some thing about crooks just turns the GOP on.
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:45 AM
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9. The fed prosecutors don't work that slowly.
Routinely, a defense attorney will see a lightning-quick trial date, preceded by what will turn out to have been years of investigation and preparation on the part of the feds. This investigation and prep occurs long before the defense attorney even enters the case, so he/she will almost always be behind the eight ball by the time the visible (post-indictment) part of the prosecution begins.

Once a defendant is indicted, the rules say there must be no dragging of feet. The trial (or guilty plea) phase usually rolls along with lightning speed.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:45 AM
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10. So, we start by asking at every opportunity - Mr. Pres, will you pardon
anyone convicted in the Plame outing? This must be asked at every opportunity available. The damage done when he refuses to answer will cut him each time.
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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:15 AM
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13. Works for me. Let me be the first?
Mr Chimperor are you going to pardon anyone convicted or under investigation in the Plame outing? :)
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 06:47 AM
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11. I think back to Watergate and when that all came down
everyone in the administration that was involved in it started outing the other guys with no reservation. The only one who didn't talk to get himself a deal was Liddy, apparently he was the only one with any kind of integrity. These guys were singing so much they couldn't get them to shut up.

GOP crooks are nothing more than common thieves and they will behave like such.
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CanOfWhoopAss Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:17 AM
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14. Yeah but this is the new and improved GOP. I hope you're right though.
Edited on Sat Oct-29-05 07:28 AM by CanOfWhoopAss
Once a self serving bastid always a self serving bastid.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:40 AM
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17. I think your tag line affirms my statement.
These people are completely self-serving and when the self becomes threatened, through jail time etc., they will always seek to protect themselves, by putting the spotlight on others.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 08:29 AM
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22. Official A is a message to Libby
he's screwed and he'd better co-operate.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 08:32 AM
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24. Bingo
Rove is not a neocon and Fitzgerald is playing them against each other. Rove will say anything if he thinks he can save his own precious ass, especially if he can save Bush in the process.

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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 09:06 AM
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32. It'll create a big problem for the next Republican Convention
since felons on probation can't associate with other known felons.
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