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The Kicker Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:01 AM
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What To Expect ( by a former fed prosecuter)
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20051028/what_to_expect_next.php

Elizabeth de la Vega
October 28, 2005
Elizabeth de la Vega has recently retired after serving more than 20 years as a federal prosecutor in Minneapolis and San Jose. During her tenure, she was a member of the Organized Crime Strike Force and Chief of the San Jose Branch of the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Northern District of California. This article appeared originally on TomDispatch.com and appears here by permission.


What To Expect Next

The grand jury supervised by U.S. attorney Patrick Fitzgerald has returned an indictment charging Vice President Dick Cheney's top aide and reputed "alter ego" I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby with perjury, obstruction of justice and false statements to the grand jury. But this indictment does not end the story; rather, a close reading suggests that these charges are most likely merely a chapter in a long and tragic story. Here, from a former federal prosecutor, are thoughts about four things we should expect, four things we shouldn't, and one question we should all be asking.

We should not expect a final resolution any time soon. Complex cases usually take years to proceed through the courts. In addition, the indictment released today describes a chronology of close to two years and a complicated set of facts. Obviously, Fitzgerald is taking a "big picture" approach to this case. This mirrors his approach to previous cases. In December 2003, for example, Fitzgerald announced the indictment of former Illinois Gov. George Ryan on corruption charges in Operation Safe Road, which began in 1998. In that year, the investigation of a fatal accident revealed that truckers were purchasing commercial licenses from state officials. Indictments were announced in stages, culminating in the indictment of Ryan, who was the 66th defendant in the case. In the Libby case, the allegations suggest he was merely one of many officials—including an unnamed undersecretary of state and "Official A," a senior White House official—who were involved in revealing classified information about Joseph Wilson's wife Valerie Plame. No other individuals are named as defendants, and they should not be considered so at this point, but the complexity of the indictment suggests that the investigation may follow a pattern similar to that used by Fitzgerald in the Illinois corruption case.
----SNIP---

We should expect red herrings from the defense (even if not smoking guns from the prosecution). Fox hunters once tossed smoked red herrings out to test whether their dogs could stay on the right trail. Now, of course, the term means a distraction from the real issue; and if the Republican Talking Points rolled out thus far are any indication, we are going to be tripping over red herrings galore in the upcoming months.

Much more at link



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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:10 AM
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1.  Recommended. Thanks. n/t
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The Kicker Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:19 AM
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2. You are most welcome,Wilms
Edited on Sat Oct-29-05 01:19 AM by The Kicker
I have to add the last paragraph here:

But should we expect, given the Republicans' attempts to belittle and politicize the case thus far, that President Bush will pardon his senior administration official if Libby is convicted on these serious charges? The 1992 Christmas Eve pardons of Iran/contra defendants by former President George Bush Sr. provide cause for concern. Let us hope that the current President Bush will not undermine the rule of law in this way.


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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:37 AM
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8. That's bugging me, too.
And it wouldn't surprise me if Fitzgerald is shaping and pacing his work to try heading that off.

..........

BUSH PARDONS 6 IN IRAN AFFAIR, ABORTING A WEINBERGER TRIAL; PROSECUTOR ASSAILS 'COVER-UP'

BUSH DIARY AT ISSUE 6-Year Inquiry Into Deal of Arms for Hostages All but Swept Away

By DAVID JOHNSTON
Special to The New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/learning/aol/onthisday/991224onthisday_big.html
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:01 AM
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12. Bush 41 was and is such conscienceless slime. It was rather hard to take
Scowcroft's paeans of praise to him in his New Yorker interview:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5152016
thread title: New Yorker/ Goldberger: "Breaking Ranks" - SCOWCROFT's BLAST OF BUSH 43

I have no doubt at all that if it comes down to saving his tail, his son will do the same as Poppy did. Bush 41's criminal acts were buried by his pardons, and his son would not hesitate to do the same if it became expedient.

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The Kicker Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:05 AM
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13. Respect for rule of law?
Why should junior suddenly develop a case of integrity? Maybe he needs a "come ta Jesus" meeting.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:15 AM
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15. Nahhhhh, he likes his religion because he thinks his god is telling him
exactly what he wants to hear on every occasion. No doubt his god would tell him to pardon anyone who might testify against him - "Christian" compassion, right? I think all the GOP spin about the indictment being over a technicality and so on is also serving this purpose: laying the groundwork to make a potential pardon less of a PR blow to the Republican Party.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:14 AM
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14. "Bush 41's criminal acts were buried by his pardons..."
Exactly.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 07:29 AM
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20. I hope Fitz can start building a case against pardons.
That is, build a case that can result in an obstruction of justice and/or conspiracy indictment against the Coward if he pardons anyone indicted in this mess.

I certainly hope that is somehow possible.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:24 AM
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3. Excellent read! n/t
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:27 AM
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4. Excellent article...
Well worth the read, good info to help get us prepared for the tricks Libby's supporters will try.

what's that old saying, "forewarned is fore-armed"? or something like that? This is that kind of article.


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the_spectator Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:33 AM
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5. Good article!
Someone else here alerted me to it earlier tonight. The Operation Safe Road thing leading to Gov. Ryan's indictment is what really is a great source of hope. I hope to find out more about Fitzgerald's involvement all throughout that long process in Illinois.
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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:34 AM
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6. Recommended. Patience, my friends, this is just the beginning.
Fitz is going to be thorough and methodical, and Libby will not be the only one to fall.

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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:37 AM
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7. Organized Crime Strike Force? One of Chuck Norris' masterpieces.
Either that or a really long SNL sketch about very organized criminals that goes on for 20 minutes too long. In other words, any given SNL sketch, really.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:42 AM
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9. Thank you for this - excellent! Here is some info on Grand Juries
Edited on Sat Oct-29-05 02:03 AM by Nothing Without Hope
to complement the info on how the prosecution is likely to run. It is the clearest explanation and most extensive compilation of links on this rather arcane but highly relevant topic I have seen yet:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5193743&mesg_id=5193743
Thread title: Great Grand Jury info at Firedoglake.com, the all-Fitz-all-the-time blog
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The Kicker Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:51 AM
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10. Great info
Thanks again, Nothing Without Hope! This is perfect complementary information.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 01:57 AM
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11. YVW, and thanks for this excellent article.
Time to shut down for the night. Tomorrow should be less frantic than today was. I wonder how well Fitzgerald and the various WH targets and possible targets and maybe-future-possible targets are sleeping tonight. I bet Fitz is exhausted.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:27 AM
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16. I was very disappointed in her article
The opening paragraphs are terrific, providing the specific example of the George Ryan episode and stepladder indictments. I expected much more of the same, examples from other federal prosecutors and how the system works, especially after the grand jury's term is technically over.

Instead, she provides one fluff paragraph after another, telling us what to expect from pundits and apologists. I don't need a federal prosecutor to tell me Bush won't actually try to get to the bottom of this, or that more attacks on Joe Wilson are likely. A great idea to have a federal prosecutor write a column like this, but she whiffed bigtime after the opening homer.
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The Kicker Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 02:31 AM
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17. Can't please everyone,huh, ; )
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The Kicker Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 05:03 AM
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18. Also,
I think a homerun is pretty good for one at-bat. : )
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 05:47 AM
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19. Methinkz the malAdministration will be more proactive:
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