Who was the WHIG really out to get?

[Check12]

Throughout this whole Plame affair I have been uncomfortable with the premise that the WH was going to all this trouble to discredit Wilson. It seems to me that the risk vs reward factor is too high. Why risk all this because some guy wrote an oped critical of the niger story? There is just too much nuance in Wilson's story for it to stick in the public's eye. When the news shows are all about Michael Jackson and missing white girls, who cares about some retired ambassador's claims.

I have thought for some time now that the real reason for outing Ms. Wilson and her cohorts in Brewster Jennings had little to do with Mr. Wilson. Perhaps it could have been some clandestine battle between CIA and WHIG that spurred the administration to act with malice and reveal her identity for some yet unknown reason.

Should I tune up the antenna on my tinfoil hat?

[Spinzonner]

1. Anyone who got in their way

and could lead the country to realize they had been duped.

[burythehatchet]

2. Just go back and read the plethora of threads on this topic

THEY produced the Niger forgeries.

[Check12]

4. Yes but so what?

They control the house, the senate, the media! How could Wilson be a potent threat worthy of such action. Perhaps we are just looking at incredible hubris, fear, and stupidity. Seems like Rove is smarter than that.

[texpatriot2004]

3. The political fallout of Plame/Wilson was just a bonus. Think

about it. Why would they risk so much if they didn't have to? They wouldn't. They were hiding something big. They still are. I will give you a hint. The veep is in deep; in some things like WMDs and making lots of money, dirty money, under the table...

Someone was on to him. Furthermore, someone was able to keep him/them from planting WMDs in Iraq...that Judas Miller and others would "find" - wonder who that might be? I am not saying it was Valerie Plame/Wilson but I am not saying that the undercover operation she was working with didn't find out either. Truth is, I don't know for sure for obvious reasons. I have read enough to know that I don't need a tinfoil hat to know how filthy Cheney is.

[Check12]

6. Interesting theory

I remember hearing that Judy fliped her lid when she was embedded because an officer called off a search for WMD at a particular location. There is something deeper here for sure. If the gag was lifted on Sibel Edmonds do you think she could connect some dots?

[texpatriot2004]

8. Oh I am sure that Sibel could tell alot. I don't know, again, for

obvious reasons if she could shed light on this or not. Here's what I know. Something smells to high heaven. Things aren't what they seem. We've been sold a bill of goods, many people are buying...I ain't one of 'em.

I am curious. I read alot. I research alot. I encourage all of us to do the same. It's important. It's our country.

It's weird, I am a Gen Xer. I came after JFK. I am not a distrusting soul by nature. I do believe in dissent. I do believe in questioning authority...especially when it is engaged in a hostile take-over of my government. I believe that "absolute power corrupts absolutely" and I am baffled that Americans are so eager to believe those in power are "on the up-and-up." We cannot afford to be naive. We no longer have the luxury of complacency. IMHO.

You seek and you will find.

[izzie]

10. I always question my govt. But----

Most of the people in govt. are like us with a little more power and money and no more brains so the mess they make is about the same as you or I would make in the same place. Many things are just what they seem. A depressed man gets a gun and kills the President with a few lucky shots, some one moves a briefcase and someone is not blown up, a high placed man steals a plane and goes to England to stop a war, a depressed man kills him self in a park.A man tells lies to stay on the good side of rich powerful men? Well why not? Lets face it we hardly have any one in the Congress or WH that can do much right. That I have seen with my own eyes in the last 5 years. Can any of us say the Bush is this great 'picker' of top grade men like he tells us? He picks what he is as all people do. Only a few times in history have we got top rate people in one place working together at one time.

[Check12]

11. Was it Wilkerson the other day

whoe said that Douglas Feith was one of the dumbest guys he had ever met.

[texpatriot2004]

13. Yes, yes it was. n.t

[murielm99]

5. You are not the only one speculating about that.

Yes, the story might have come and gone. Even if Wilson had appeared on a few of the Sunday gasbag shows as an administration critic, people would have forgotten him quickly. They would have needed a reminder of his bravery during the first Iraq war. Was he even well-known enough to appear on any of those shows?

I have a copy of the article he wrote. I found it and printed it only after it became famous. How many people actually read it and remembered it at the time it was written?

Yes, they are a vindictive lot. We have seen several examples of people who have recanted their criticisms of the * administration. But they may have been killing two birds with one stone. Plame worked on WMD proliferation. She may have been close to big knowledge about the lack of WMDs in Iraq, or about people associated with the * administration selling weapons or knowledge to countries who are not our friends.

All of this stuff is unbelievable. Who could make it up? It goes so much deeper than anything Nixon's buddies pulled.

[longship]

7. That's been talked up quite a bit over the past two years.

It's not tin foil hat when there are facts to back it up. But who knows how far this could go.

[izzie]

9. It does seem to be silly for what can happen to you but-----

Look at it this way. You must have run into people who lie before and wonder about the same thing. I have and even to me. So it could be what people think you will believe is what they will feed you,or they always lie and get away with it so why not keep doing it or Who I am will have what I say seem as the truth. Also the aim to keep the President on top would be a big pay off for this man. With Bush, friends get hand outs.

[snot]

12. I concur with you and TexPatriot that

it makes no sense that they undertook this kind of risk in an inept attempt to discredit Wilson.

But it makes a whole lot of sense if the real goal was to destroy Brewster Jennings, because Cheney was afraid Plame's operation was about to uncover something even more damning.

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