RW Talking Point -- "Fitzgerald is acting like this is a murder case"

[Armstead]

I heard thjis on shameless Hannity this afternoon, attackiung Fitzgerald for taking it too seriously.

Then tonite Mary Matlin went on H& C and said the same thing.

They are squealing like stuffed pigs. And they are not shy about attacking Fitzgerald.

[stepnw1f]

1. It Is...

...the irony.

[texpatriot2004]

28. My thought exactly. nm

[uppityperson]

2. 2012

[txindy]

27. Exactly

This is definitely a murder case.

[Scout1071]

3. Who says it isn't a murder case? What about the new star on the wall

at Langley? What about the 2,000 American soldiers who lost their lives in Iraq?

[jazzjunkysue]

34. 100,000+ Iraqis. Every day, 100 children die of dysentary.

It's murder. No question.

[BikeWriter]

4. And they know no spies were killed because of this how?

[npincus]

5. and Clinton's blowjob was Armegeddon (to the Pukes)

[MADem]

32. I was gonna say genocide, but that works, too!

[pacalo]

6. Duh! Sure is!

[fearnobush]

7. Fitz will over come these idiots. Even the right wing media is gushing

over Fitz's performance today.

[MadJohnShaft]

8. "Valuable time (and taxpayer money!) was wasted tracking down lies."

Wouldn't that be a great counter talking point?

[patdem]

12. Agreed..and if Irving had told the truth in the beginning maybe he would

not have been charged with anything..but there is no way to know..because he LIED..and OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE...so there is NO WAY to know if he would have been charged if he told the truth fromt he beginning! (the KEY here it the truth, of course)

[morillon]

31. I heard a RW pundit complaining about how much money has been spent.

Fitzgerald's investigation has cost a fraction of the amount Starr's idiocy did.

[MADem]

33. They have spent about a mil so far, compared to 40M+ for a bj N/T

[aquart]

9. 2000 American dead. Looks like murder to me.

[Junkdrawer]

10. From DailyKOS...

A possibility has been raised by several sources that a death may have occurred as a result of this leak. Under the Espionage Act, this could lead to a death penalty case. The CIA Wall of Honor has stars representing agents killed on duty. Named stars are used where information is not classified, and anonymous stars are used when the agent's name cannot be released. Below the stars is a chronological Book of Honor. An anonymous star was added to the wall between named stars that can be dated to deaths on February 5, 2003 and October 25, 2003. The anonymous star thus fits the timing of the Plame leak. Wayne Madsen, a reporter and former NSA employee, has claimed, "CIA sources report that at least one anonymous star placed on the CIA's Wall of Honor at its Langley, Virginia headquarters is a clandestine agent who was executed in a hostile foreign nation as a direct result of the White House leak."

...

In February, Circuit Judge David Tatel joined his colleagues' order to Cooper and Miller despite his own, very lonely finding that indeed there is a federal privilege for reporters that can shield them from being compelled to testify to grand juries and give up sources. He based his finding on Rule 501 of the Federal Rules of Evidence, which authorizes federal courts to develop new privileges "in the light of reason and experience." Tatel actually found that reason and experience "support recognition of a privilege for reporters' confidential sources." But Tatel still ordered Cooper and Miller to testify because he found that the privilege had to give way to "the gravity of the suspected crime."

Judge Tatel's opinion has eight blank pages in the middle of it where he discusses the secret information the prosecutor has supplied only to the judges to convince them that the testimony he is demanding is worth sending reporters to jail to get. The gravity of the suspected crime is presumably very well developed in those redacted pages. Later, Tatel refers to "having carefully scrutinized the prosecutor's voluminous classified filings."

Some of us have theorized that the prosecutor may have given up the leak case in favor of a perjury case, but Tatel still refers to it simply as a case "which involves the alleged exposure of a covert agent." Tatel wrote a 41-page opinion in which he seemed eager to make new law -- a federal reporters' shield law -- but in the end, he couldn't bring himself to do it in this particular case. In his final paragraph, he says he "might have" let Cooper and Miller off the hook "were the leak at issue in this case less harmful to national security." (emphasis mine)






http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/10/22/143214/56

[kurth]

11. Even David Brooks on PBS tonight

said that if you still think these crimes are "technicalities" after watching Fitzgerald, you're an "idiot".

[gardenista]

13. Oh, he seriously misunderestimates the American people.

We all remember the craven, leak-riddled investigation by Starr.

[tridim]

14. My favorite

"Like everyone else, Libby should be considered innocent until proven otherwise"

Not really a talking point, but it's funny how they won't say the word "guilty". I've heard it used twice now.

[CelticWinter]

15. These a'holes are living proof that some

people just shouldnt breed. I cant believe the crapola that comes out of some ppl's mouths. Over 2000 of our young ppl murdered for what....CIA? how many there.....we will never know...and how many other ppl working behind the scenes? Honest to god if some ppl had half a brain they would be dangerous.

[Gold Metal Flake]

16. Damn right, it is!

But, I am sure that since the Repukes care about their country as much as we do, that they will urge their representative to force the after action report on the exposure of Brewster/Jennings to be released by the CIA where it has been sequestered. Sure they will.

[ThoughtCriminal]

17. Whereas Ken Star treated his investigations like they were...

the preservation of Civilization Itself!

The RW's are going to be reminded about Ken Star a lot in the next few months and I have no problem stuffing it right up their A**.

[shance]

18. Of course it is a murder case. MANY many murders.

Of innocent people, families, loved ones, children, pets. All blown up and Shock and Awed so the wealthy individuals like Andrea Mitchell and Alan Greenspan and Dick Cheney and Lynn Cheney can continue living in their delusional sloth.

[progressivebydesign]

19. Well ya dumbfucks.. it COULD have been!!!

That's what happens when you out a CIA covert officer. Not to mention the large-scale murder that can occur when you JEOPARDIZE national security.

[Quixote1818]

20. Undermining the CIA could put Millions of Americans in danger

This is at least as important as a murder case and if left unchecked could be 1000 times more deadly than one murder case.

Oh, just FUCK YOU Hannity! You scum bag! :spank:

[NashVegas]

21. Of Course the Pundits Know MUCH MORE About Crime Than A Federal Prosecutor

And of course they know much more about national security than the guy who'd been investigating Al Queda and other terrorists since the 1990s.

[Straight Shooter]

22. It's worse than murder.

It's mass-scale murder and treason.

[Guaranteed]

23. Oh, it's only our national security.

Who cares?

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. worst than murder

it is treason....

2000 + of our troops are dead, 100,000 Iraqis and lord knowws how many CIA agents (one star was added folks at Langkley) or how many foreign assets

[Mutley]

25. Who cares?

Hannity's opinion on how Fitz is acting means nothing.

But, it's great fun to know Hannity is twisting in the wind.

[Raksha]

26. They don't want to take that approach!

That's at least as big a mistake as "the criminalization of politics," and probably a lot worse. Because as a matter of fact, it *IS* a murder case.

[bluedawg12]

29. An indictment with out a BJ is not a crime for freepoids. They suck

and blow RW talking points.

[0007]

30. When will we get rid of these stupid lame brain idiots?

Murder in the first degree, based on lies for money & power, is what it is.

This administration or crime family are scary sons-of-bitches.