Maybe in the future we shouldn't pick glib sayings like "Fitzmas."

[KoKo]

It really didn't help our cause. It was some dreamed up "advertising promo" that in the end ...let us all down.

Hyping "Fitzmas!" Rove is going down, there may be up to 12 Indictments, Rove is going down...and Fitz is going after Niger Forgeries and all the rest of the "Spin and Crap" we sat here and spent our time on.

In the end...Fitzgerald was a Prosecutor charged with a "Narrow Investigation." He did his job...he wants to get back to Chicago to sleep in his own bed.

Why did we allow ourselves to get SO INVOLVED with the SPIN from both Our Own Left and the RIGHT?

WHY? And, is it good that we did this? Or, do we need to become wiser to spin that "pumps us" along with the spin that "trolls and Freeps" promote to us.

Why can't we learn to be more "MEDIA SAVY?"

If we don't learn we are "doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past." :shrug:

[DistressedAmerican]

1. Fitzmas Is On Its Way Out And You Are Still Bitching.

This must be the 50th thread about how bad "Fitzmas" makes us look etc. Give it a rest. We get your message. Some people object.

[KoKo]

6. Sorry...I missed the 50 Threads...I'll shut up.. and let the thread die

after this post...:-(

[johnfunk]

45. Folks, Fitzmas has just begun...

The special counsel is getting another grand jury. Scooter's five-fecta is just the beginning.

It's a warning to the most powerful circle of people in America that they could be next...

...and that means YOU, Karl Rove, you treasonous little shit of a turd blossom.

Methinks Rove has weeks, maybe days, to cut a deal with Fitz. Mefurtherthinks Cheney has a great Big Time target painted on his back by Fitzgerald's Untouchables.

And, of course, Ambassador Wilson and his wife are going to sue. I'd love to be a fly on the wall of those depositions. And we all remember what happened when Clinton got deposed, so :popcorn: stock up on the Jolly Time early!

Keep that Fitzmas spirit in your heart all year 'round... 'cause the fun could last for, say, the remainder of Smirky W. McBunnypants' term!

[linazelle]

49. It's Fitzmas SEASON. Hark the herald....

Patrick Fitzgerald.

:hi:

[okieinpain]

2. shit I enjoyed fitzmas, and I'm looking forward to next year. what's your

complaint.

[The Backlash Cometh]

32. I kinda like the idea that we got a Scooter for Fitzmas.

[Coexist]

34. I always wanted one. eom

[SoCalDem]

43. But but but.. Our scooter is BROKEN

it's on crutches :rofl:

[Wilms]

3. So I'm supposed to go with YOUR spin?

:shrug:

[KoKo]

9. "Me Lips are Sealed." I've been sanctioned by the posters on this thread!

:-)'s

[Spinzonner]

4. Stop Scrooging around with us

:-)

[Botany]

5. Maybe in the future we would have less "wet blankets."

1. This is just the beginning
2. I live in Columbus, Ohio and I have felt like this country has been
fucked for the past 5 years ...... and if I or somebody else finds
humor, wit, or snark in Fitzmas why should it bother somebody?
3. Go eat your tofu and bean sprout sandwich on cold old whole
wheat bread and snap out of it.

[Parche]

7. OK OK

Its now called FITZANUKKAH...are we happy now........

[Walt Starr]

8. This was just the first day of Fitzmas

I expect many more to come.

The Illinois licenses for bribes scandal started with a single indictment against a single official. It ended up with a total of 66 indictents, all of which resulted either in convictions or are still in court. Governor George Ryan of Illinois was the 66th person indicted. This over a period of several years.

The prosecuting attorney on these cases is none other than Patrick Fitzgerald.

On the first day of Fitzmas the Special Counsel gave to me. A scooter.

[Botany]

16. Walt you got the big picture!

It is the most wonderful time of the year!



Fitz has Cheney, Rove, Bolton, Rove, Ari, & Hadley

in his sights

[Catherine Vincent]

17. And on the second day a...

fat pasty doughboy?:-)

[SharonRB]

38. Very good, Walt

:rofl:

I agree that this is just the beginning. And there's nothing wrong with having a little Fitzmas/Fitznukah fun with it along the way.

[goodhue]

10. I agree wholeheatedly, but I'm probably in minority I suppose

[KoKo]

19. It's okay..one learns to develop tough hides on DU worth taking the

piercing arrows. But, it doesn't stop me from still posting. I think "dissent" is healthy. So it's okay...and I did break my pledge to "seal my lips."

But, you are NOT ...Alone.

[Quixote1818]

24. It's really important to have dissenters over the word "Fitzmas"!!!!

This is probably the most important thread ever started on DU. Arguing over people having fun with a catch phrase. Good to see you tackling the important issues!
:sarcasm:

:eyes:

[KoKo]

26. Tough Hide...but I swore my "lips were sealed" so "They" will call me

a Hypocrite! :D....I don't care...I am who I am . Even with you "sarcasm to me" I will still stay true to my "own" principles..whether you like them or not.

[Quixote1818]

30. Hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion

I know how it feels to start a thread and have 9 out of ten people rip me a new one. If it's what you believe then who am I to tell you you are wrong to have that opinion.

Have fun.

The only sin we never forgive each other is difference of opinion. Emerson
:hi:

[Rosco T.]

11. Hell's bells, we've still got Fitzgiving to look forward to!! n/m

[SharonRB]

39. And Fitzoween is right around the corner

Credit to Botany for that one.

[mzmolly]

12. Sorry, I'm celebrating FITZMAS today.

:toast:

Your welcome to your gloom.

[Quixote1818]

13. It's only the first day of Fitzmas

Their are still eleven days left. :spray:

[Catherine Vincent]

14. I wasn't let down, I don't know what you're talking about.

It was a good Fitzmas and it's not over. Would you rather Fitzgasms? That sounds neat don't cha think? :-) http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5211212&mesg_id=5211212

[Sydnie]

15. Hell, I'm starting to plan for a visit from the Fitzter Bunny!

I'll take a holiday from fascism any day!

[Botany]

20. You got it

Today was huge .... Fitz is a tough SOB and he is going after
the whole rats nest ..... and he knows if he exposed the right
stuff congress has to impeach ..... "I am not going to do the
job of Congress" St Fitz .... rough quote

for you buddy

[Sydnie]

25. Thank you!

I happen to think there are many "fitzter eggs" hidden that still need to be found. And when they are .... then we'll have neocon egg salad!

:loveya: :hug: for you budddddddeeeeeee!

[Botany]

29. I swear you could take some people to a wonderful

cabin in the mountains, with a trout stream & pond out front,
woods out back, comfortable and warm, billions of stars @ night,
and Bay Airs playing out front and some people would say ....
Where is the beach?

[Sydnie]

48. Not me babeeeeeeeeee

[Mme. Defarge]

28. Don't forget Saint Patrick's Day!

[Sydnie]

46. You're correct!

[SharonRB]

40. Not to mention fireworks on the Fitz of July

Again, credit to Botany.

[Sydnie]

50. Hi Sharon! Don't want to forget that either!

[Marr]

18. What is everyone so bitter about today?

I just watched a WH official get INDICTED. It's already opening up alot of discussion about the administration's claims about Iraq.

Fitzgerald conducted a professional and *fair* investigation. Were people expecting Bush and Cheney to be frogmarched today or something? Because if that's the reason for all the frustration, I'd say the problem is ridiculous fantasy expectations and wishful thinking- not a silly (but fun) phrase like "Fitzmas".

[Bouncy Ball]

22. Hear, hear.

I truly don't get it, either. It's been a very very good day.

[Bouncy Ball]

21. I TRULY do not get this attitude.

Who CARES about some silly term someone on the internet made up?

I swear to GOD I've seen more hand-wringing here about something GOOD than I could have ever imagined.

Some of you could be handed a plate of gold bars and you'd complain that it was too heavy.

If you got too emotionally overinvolved in this, who's to blame? Other people? I didn't get emotionally overinvolved. I figure whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen, why worry?

Today was good. A new grand jury being empaneled is even BETTER! Who cares about the Fitzmas term?

[Beausoir]

35. "Some of you could be handed a plate of gold bars and you'd complain that

it was too heavy."

So true. Absolutely spot-on.

[NightOwwl]

23. Who let the Church Lady in? n/t

[SoCalDem]

Harriet's back???

:rofl:

[Beausoir]

27. A huge victory for democracy today and you pick this silliness to harp

on?

Spare me.

[KoKo]

31. Struck that "Nerve of Disbelief" ...Did I? Why so many folks bother with

my post you disagreed with, unless you had a little of the "concern" I expressed. :shrug:

I think we all need to be worried. Fitz is as honest a guy (seeming from what I heard and you heard) BUT...he isn't "Atlas holding the world on his shoulders."

We SHOULD NOT have put a "Fitzmas Burden" on his shoulders...and that he "tossed it off" is to be expected. We just "over-reached."

[Beausoir]

33. You actually believe that Fitzgerald gives a crap about this silliness?

Pass me some of that wacky weed.

Let's get back to issues and stop dwelling on these silly, childish non-issues.

Do you think Scooter will be able to plea bargain? How will this impact the upcoming congressional races? Will Cheney testify under oath?

Have you spent any time thinking about these big picture issues? Or is it all about silly labels?

[Carni]

41. I'm sure Fitzgerald has spent the last two months reading blogs

About *fitzmas* and the pressure was too much...

Yeah that's the ticket.

[Beausoir]

44. Lol. Yeah..he looked like the pressure was really getting to him. n/t

[stepnw1f]

36. LOL

Yeah... that's why you feel disappointed.

MERRY FITZMAS!

[Moloch]

37. I never expected "Fitzmas"

There's nothing I'd like to see more than the entire BFEE go down in one day but that's not going to happen.

Like Fitzgerald said, It's not over.

Don't feel let down by this.

[NashVegas]

42. I Just Think It's Kind of Crass

We have all the reason in the world to be happy the press and the country are forced to acknowledge the nakedness of these little emporers.

But it doesn't change the fact we went to war for horrid reasons, and it doesn't change that members at the highest level of our government betrayed loyal citizens. Kind of dims the celebration for me.

[hippiechick]

47. ... because that's what the group does ....

.... remember a year ago ?? Everyone had themselves so worked up into a pre-orgasmic frenzy that when the shit went down, they were practically apoplectic ... and then the self-deluders spent several MORE months waiting for Clark Kent/Kerry to step out of the phone booth with his SuperMan suit on and stop the Inauguration.

Some folks will continue to run head first into a brick wall, rather than learn from the experience.

[SpiralHawk]

51. Fitzmas was not ad promo. It was Vox Populii

Well unless someone comes forward with a usage of 'Fitzmas' earlier than Oct. 6, I suppose I will be credited as the person who coined the term. On that basis, I'd like to weigh in on the Fitzmas brouhaha.

The term 'Fitzmas' emerged on a whim, to elaborate on a thought suggested in an Oct. 6 thread by Seemslikeadream. That's all it was -- a quickie whim.

But somehow the thing developed legs. On its own. People picked it up and started using it until it became a meme or possibly even an anti-meme. They just seemed to like it and repeat and repeat and repeat it. It developed a life of its own because a lot of people found some level of resonance in it. In this perhaps there is a factor of Cultural Inevitability. Folks are looking for a way to blow off steam about how BushCo and the Republicans have VIOLATED the trust of the voters -- in oh so many ways. Fitzmas, I feel, somehow came to represent the HOPE that the violations would soon be remedied -- a cause for jubilation.

As for me, I don't care too passionately much about the term 'Fitzmas." I found it amusing on one level, but it is not my nature to dwell in the state of Schadefruede -- taking pleasure from the problems of others. I feel that's basically an unhealthy soul state.

What I am interested in -- like most DUers -- is in something far more substantial than a cute word, or a few days of celebration over indictments. Indictments, in my view, will just be the start of a process of profound upheaval in the USA. Out of all of this process I want justice. I want truth. I want my country and my democracy back. That's what is important. That's what I'd like to celebrate: Truthmas or Justicemas or even Democracymas. Bring it on.

"Fitzmas" as a term, or a meme, is likely to recede into the cyber archives of history in a big hurry, maybe as soon as next week. Toodle Oooo. Goodbye.

We have work to do. Justice. Truth. Democracy.

[KoKo]

52. Great Post, Spiral Hawk!

I didn't know you had "coined it." And, I'm not dissing you about it. Just that it was picked up and turned into as you said maybe a "meme."

It seemed too effusive. And, I think that Fitz did the best and who knows he might deliver even more. But the "parameters" of what he was given and what he had to deal with were very restricted.

Don't mean to sound like the "Grinch who's dissing Fitzmas," here. I just was "cautioning down."

Thanks for your explanation and as I said...I didn't know you coined it..thought it just erupted on it's own out of the internet.

Wouldn't diss one of my most admired posters on DU...:hug: Sorry if you thought I was. :blush: