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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:37 AM
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Let's talk about all the "good things" that are happening in Iraq...
Since the American media doesn't seem to want to go into detail with it. We know that we have persuaded many Iraqis to join a "police force" to help us in Baghdad because they were bombed the other day as they were picking up their paychecks. And I would bet they are getting better pay than they have gotten in their lifetimes.

And some Administration hack is on the TV every day to tell us about the schools and hospitals re-opening. Why were they closed in the first place? Who is responsible for opening them, the Americans or the Iraqis? I do recall one brave doctor that kept his hospital open during the "war", even though he didn't have enough electricity or medicine to adequately take care of his patients.

But to dispel the doubts and to strength their arguments about all the "good things" they are doing, I think it would be to their advantage to give us a little more detail about the schools and hospitals now opening. I don't expect the media to give us those details anytime soon...
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:43 AM
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1. The only good thing I can imagine happening in Iraq
is that we are learning that the road into the future cannot be paved with lies, arrogance, hubris, or a complete lack of comprehension of other cultures. If we learn this lesson and learn it well, we might survive to enjoy the future, otherwise this society will go the way of Rome.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:49 AM
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2. Brit Hume was having a hissy this morning
about that very thing. "Let's talk about the GOOD things..."was his mantra. When will someone on that panel have the integrity to get up and leave and say "I'm outta here!"?
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:54 AM
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3. 65% of Iraq has power back.
65%. After 6 months.

And, uhm....it's not as hot there now? I guess that's good news...

And...uhm..... Hmmm.... hold on, it'll come to me...
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:56 AM
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5. yup, kit
that's exactly the way I read it. Basically, the "good" things mean restoring Iraq to the way it was before we illegally bombed the f*** out of them.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:57 AM
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6. How much power did they have before the war?
These are the details we need. Just as, how many schools and hospitals were open before we invaded? Do they have new ones? Give us details is all we are asking..not just feel good lines from the Administration.
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:13 AM
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10. Well, google isn't giving me any pre-1991 stats
Or even any pre-2003 stats.

But the word 'restored' leads me, anyway, to understand that there was power there until relatively recently.
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Eddie Current Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:55 AM
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4. well one thing is
...uhhhh. well I guees not.

okay here's one. when... nope that won't work.

how about good for who? I think maybe we can list some good things that are happening for military-industrial complex greed heads. maybe wargasms for the Rush, Savage, etc. screech monkey army.



"The poor and the underclass are growing. Racial justice and human
rights are nonexistent. They have created a repressive society, and we are their unwitting accomplices. Their intention to rule rests with the annihilation of consciousness. We have been lulled into a trance. They have made us indifferent -- to ourselves, to others. We are focused only on our own gain."
-- rebel scientist (They Live)
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:57 AM
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7. Where's the video?
If all these GOOD things were happening in Iraq, there would be video 24/7 by our whorepress. Where is it?
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 09:58 AM
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8. here's my list of the 'good things' happening in iraq.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:15 AM
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11. You forgot this:
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impeach the gop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:10 AM
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9. Happy Shiney People, they Don't Worry, They Be Happy
I'm beyond pissed. I've been laughing watching the faux clowns go from the doom gloom and despare mode of how bad terrorist are, to now blowing off the body count that just keeps growing EVERY DAMN TIME smirky goes off on his prbullshit spin to make the people know that the kids are in school, the store shelves are stocked and all the liberated Iraqis are going off on their merry happy shiney way to work.

Life is so much better now that war has truly brought peace, and freedom to the Middle East.

I wish someone would have a count or a meter just to shove it back in the face of the real terrorist, that showed how many times they refer to the good things going on in Iraq cause the "liberal" news media insist on dwelling on those pesky resisters, or like the military going to the farmers fields and destroying their crops and livelyhood.

PUKE
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:15 AM
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12. Iraq is getting cellphone coverage!
I'm sure it will help facilitate guerilla operations.

Also, about the schools. They have refurbished and opened about 1500 of Iraq's 13,000 schools.

The American people don't care about good news in Iraq. Why would we?
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:24 AM
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13. And Iraq's cell phone coverage is provided by
a Kurdish firm to cover Northern Iraq and a Kuwaiti firm to cover southern Iraq and an Egyptian firm to cover Baghdad and central Iraq. It really pissed off American telecom firms 'cuz they wanted to install US CDMA technology but GSM (not the same as what is used in the US) is the standard everywhere else in the world.

Jazzgirl
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:25 AM
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14. Misdirection. The switch.
Edited on Sun Oct-12-03 10:35 AM by gulliver
They want to take the focus off of the cost and the false reasons for war, of course. This is the switch part of the bait-and-switch play, and they are doing it full force. The media is now going into a full cycle of "maybe things aren't so bad."

But that's not what we were sold! We paid for more security for the United States, not "restored electricity to pre-war levels in Bhagdad." We didn't get our security. We Americans are empty-handed so far, and the Bushies frankly show a lot more concern about good news in Iraq than in America.

The Bushies are so damned humanitarian I could puke.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:26 AM
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15. From what I understand, the 101st AB General is clued-in
Apparently, things are going pretty well in the Kurdish areas in the north. Now, of course, the Kurds were no fans of the Baath party, so it's probably a bit easier going up there. But, the General in charge is apparently well-liked by the Kurds and is actually getting businesses up and running.

Now, I learned this from a couple of NPR reports I heard. This could be total propaganda...
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:28 AM
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16. Going well in the North?
Wait until Turkey starts sending in their troops.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 11:28 AM
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18. Yep. That'll throw a spanner in the works, for sure.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 10:32 AM
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17. well they have free press, can see any movies they want
THats some nice stuff
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 11:34 AM
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19. C'mon- there are LOTS of good things happening in Iraq.
Edited on Sun Oct-12-03 11:37 AM by Cat Atomic
If you happen to be a war profiteer or an oil executive.

Or an Al-Qaeda recruiter.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-03 11:37 AM
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20. A point to remember from Viet Nam....
We hear the Administration say that 90% of the people support us in Iraq. There were cities and villages in Viet Nam which were relatively safe for Americans to travel around. Saigon, even at the height of the war, was relatively safe. Of course, since few of this Administration were in Viet Nam, they may not be aware of that fact... It is not a barometer of how the war is going or how it will go in the future...
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