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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 07:53 PM Original message |
stupid question but, why dont we let the Kurds have their own country? |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm sure in the coming civil war they will get it |
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billbuckhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good question but unfortunately I have the answer |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. On;y thing I've heard is that almost all the oil is in Bagdad. |
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billbuckhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 07:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Actually Kurds have plenty of oil, it's the Sunnis who don't have the oil |
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El Supremo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. No, the North (Kurdistan) and the South (Shiites) have all the oil. |
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CONN (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. Fear of Turkey |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. that's been my understanding (essentially) n/t |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. I think it's a bit more complex...many Kurds think of themselves as more |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 11:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. No, not really |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. The Turkish Kurds will try to leave Turkey - MORE War and a broader |
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liberalnurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
6. For some reason, Turkey would want to invade them. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 07:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Turkey wants to join the European Union. |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. because of Turkey and the location of the reserves |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. I read they have a huge chunk of oil n/t |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
12. What makes you think we have the right to make grandiose pronouncements? |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. like it or not, we do control Iraq right now |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. No part of Iraq is ours to give way. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
13. ok, regarding Turkey, couldnt we use the EU to restrain them |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
14. You know, other people live in the region besides Kurds. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. If you give the Kurds their country in North Iraq, the Turkomens... |
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illflem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
16. Sort of the same reason we don't give |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
18. We have no right to break up Iraq. |
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Aimah (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
19. Causing more problems in the Middle East |
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occuserpens (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
22. Independent Kurdistan |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 10:27 AM Response to Reply #22 |
44. Hi occuserpens!! |
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occuserpens (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 10:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
61. (((newyawker99))) |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
23. Three reasons, mainly |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. There are Kurds in Syria as well |
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occuserpens (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. yepp |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. It is a very small percentage of the total population |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. It's a very similar problem that Palestinians have... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 11:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. The big difference is that Palestine has no oil |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
25. Turkey would INVADE and BUTCHER the Kurds if they did that |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
27. Fear of Turkey, Instability, and Ethnic Cleansing |
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occuserpens (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Iraqi instability??? |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 10:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Instability in the region |
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occuserpens (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 12:25 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. There is not much place for politics in Iraq |
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wadestock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
30. I'll tell you what you're missing |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
37. What?!!! Lay down the White Man's Burden? |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
38. "WE" have no right to give anyone ANYTHING. |
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occuserpens (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 07:09 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. exactly |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 03:21 AM Response to Original message |
39. "We" can do very little |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 03:46 AM Response to Original message |
40. Ask Turkey. And what's this "we let"? |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 07:13 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Thank you! I was just about to say " we let "???? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
43. Um.... you guys... the Kurds already have their own independent country. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
45. their homeland contains lots of oil |
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eissa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
46. They deserve their own country, but |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 11:40 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. None of these parties are totally innocent... |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Idealistic whitewash |
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eissa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. How did the city of Erbil get its name? |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 04:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Thanks for this info |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
47. Our Allies in Turkey are against such a state |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Actually, the KURDS are our only genuine allies in the region |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. OTOH, they DID just steal the referendum |
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eissa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 04:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Two corrections |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 04:48 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply you didn't exist! |
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eissa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 05:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. It's nice to converse with someone |
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MojoXN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
48. Because the Turkish Kurds would stage a mass exodus... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
55. It's not OURS to give.. Turkey does not want the Kurds |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
58. Riiter: Turkey would never allow it and would go to war with |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-27-05 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
59. here is another stupid question... |
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