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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:10 PM
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So who did they EXPECT him to nominate?
I've listened to various neocons and neocon puppets scream and yell about this nomination (Harriet Whatever) and I can't seem to figure out who they expected him to nominate.

I'm not saying she was his only choice. And honestly, I think she'd be a crappy justice.

But I'm curious as to what DUers think. Is there some hardcore neocon judge out there they were hoping he'd nominate? Who is/are the neocons' wet dream nominee?

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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:13 PM
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1. I think Laura made him nominate her
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 06:13 PM by notadmblnd
I was reading last weeks newsweek, the article titled Mild on Miers. there were sever photos of her over the years. I couldn't bring myself to steal the magazine, but I wanted to bring it home and scan it into my computer and post it here. I swear that laura bush is standing next to her in the college/highschool photo that is on the right side of the page in the article.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:14 PM
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I was expecting
Janice Rogers Brown or Pricilla Owens. I was really surprised at the time by this one but in retrospect I am not.

I don't have a clue who they were expecting but I did hear those names come up because they thought it would be a woman and I think Gonzales also was tossed around as an Hispanic choice.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:14 PM
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2. Judge Moore, of course!
He's got judicial experience and he's batshit crazy.
He was win-win!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:14 PM
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Of course! Janice Rogers Brown, Ludig, Owen, etc!
They wanted a judge who had a strong history of bias to their religious beliefs!
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:14 PM
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3. I think they expected either Priscilla Owen or Janice Rogers Brown.
Genuine, known conservative judges. With a paper trail to prove that they will adhere to a conservative agenda on the Court.

Not some crony who seems to be a cipher.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:15 PM
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4. I think they may also
be pissed because she certanly would serve Bush** well but not the party, or at least they expect that she would not.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:15 PM
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5. Someone like Janice Rogers Brown?
Ashcroft? :shrug:

I think they wanted someone who was an extremely loud voice against abortion. Though Miers is anti-choice, she's just not anti-choice enough.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:17 PM
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6. Thanks, DUers.
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 06:18 PM by Bouncy Ball
The comments that they wanted someone more LOUDLY and assuredly anti-choice makes sense.

On edit I was listening to this religious radio station and the guy said he was SURE God didn't want Meirs to be a SC justice. I laughed.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:17 PM
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7. Ashcroft?
:)
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:17 PM
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8. Since she is and has been the Presidents
counsel for 5 years I think, and Bush not releasing any papers on her decisions. We have all lived her decisions, and they haven't benefited us very well. Lets hope the Re pugs do something right this time.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:18 PM
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9. A white male evangelical, fire-breathing, born again Baptist--what else?
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:19 PM
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10. Yeah, I have noticed a lot of comments by neocons
in which they barely cover their disgust that he nominated a WOMAN (SNEER).

Accusing him of affirmative action and so forth.

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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:44 PM
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12. Too much affirmative action on behalf of females for the poor dearies
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:19 PM
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11. The name I kept hearing was Michael McConnell
Seems he's voiced his anti-abortion stance more than once. The buzz from the religious right was he would have been perfect.
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clmbohdem Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:51 PM
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13. Bork
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 07:09 PM
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16. I cracked up tonight, because husband was watching the news
and they had quotes from BORK about how bad Meirs is.

BORK!!!! ROFL!!! :rofl: Ooooookay!

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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 07:07 PM
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14. What I think happened is this:
Shrub needed, and wanted, to pick someone very conservative. He had to pick a hard-line RWer to satisfy the base, and they had to be a religious conservative to payback the Christian Right for giving him 4-more-years. But any well-know religious nut-job would be impossible to get past a newly-embolded bunch of Dems, and given his lousy poll-numbers of late (he says he doesn't pay attention to polls, but we know that's bullshit!), I doubt a fillibuster and subsequent nuclear (sorry, nuculer) option would be a very appealing course of action.

So, Shrub and Co. decided to pick a hard-line conservative that no one knows, get ol' James Dobson to give everyone a big "wink" on her religious credentials, and the Dems won't have enough ammo to sink her nomination. Only problem with that brilliant plan, though, is that the right-wing base doesn't trust their president like they used to. They still love and adore him (still better than Hillary or Kerry in their little minds), but they are just as upset about Iraq, high gas prices, and FEMA-incompetence as any liberal, and they are growing restless because abortions are still legal, homosexuals are still rampant, and the ten commandments are still not allowed down at the courthouse. They want much more than Shrub's empty assurances and Dobson's winks. They want a well-known nut-job that the president will push through over the liberals objections, someone who will finally get to work on the agenda that they were promised in 2000 and again in 2004.

My only fear in all of this is that if Meirs is pulled, or actually goes through with confirmation and fails (which is almost certain at this point), that the religious nuts will finally get their wish with her replacement.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 07:08 PM
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15. I read a column by a local conservative the other day in which
he said we now have TWO liberal parties (oh where do I start with THAT bullshit?) and that bush is a liberal.

No, he's a FASCIST. Sheesh.
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