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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:18 AM
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Help - getting ready to go see my freeper bro in law
My sister is having a birthday party for her kids today. She and the ass are divorced so I fortunately rarely see him. And my sister, wisely, is having one party for both kids this year. (Both birthdays are in October.)

He was a nice guy when she married him. Now he is an ass. And since they divorced, he jumps on me with some assinine rw talking point every time he sees me. I really can't stand the guy but I dearly love my niece and nephew.

Even buying the gifts was hard. Everything I considered I wondered how HE would react. No book of scary Halloween stories - that might cause nightmares. That doll was cute but HE might say it is too grown up for his daughter. I looked all over for a book on sports for my nephew but couldn't find one. Why the hell do I let this asshole get to me like this? Man I feel so sorry for my sister's kids.

So when he drops the assinine political comment, do I politely tell him that I don't think his children's party is the right setting to discuss politics? Or do I come back with some equally assinine remark and hope my mother doesn't hear me? Man I wish I could just ignore him but I am sure my niece and nephew would notice that.

Should I take my pictures from Crawford to show my sister? :)
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:20 AM
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1. Trade him a handful of magic beans for his car
Seems as if he is stupid enough to fall for it
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:23 AM
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5. I wish
Actually he is pretty smart. Fooled my sister. No job. Mooches off of her and his mother. Supposedly has a business BUT. . . I have never fallen for that line of bullshit.

I think that's why he hates me so much. He knows I see right through his crap. And the funny thing is we got along fine till they had kids. His kids love me and that drives him up the wall.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:21 AM
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2. YES! Take the photos!
that will most certainly set him off. Understand what you are going through. Thank gawd for DU being a support system as have RW in laws as well.

good luck! Go to that peaceful place and just smile. Reacting to the ass just gives him power.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:23 AM
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6. OK the pictures are going
DU gives me courage. :)
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:47 AM
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29. I second that
Definitely take the pictures. & show them proudly.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:21 AM
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3. Wish him a Merry Fitzmas.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:24 AM
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7. Good one!
He will be scrambling to figure out what that means. hee hee
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:22 AM
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4. Give the kids money and
pretend he isn't there.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:25 AM
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11. I bought them books.
My family kind of expects it. I am the teacher. I always give books as gifts.

I started to give gift certificates to Borders and then I wondered if my sister is maybe too busy to take her kids shopping.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:24 AM
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8. tell him to "talk to the hand"
or softly whisper in his ear to f**k off...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:27 AM
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13. You know I did that last year!
At Christmas, he started to say something and I politely whispered "FUCK YOU". Man it felt good. He went running to my sister to tell her and she looked at me and smiled really big:)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:43 AM
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26. LOL
That's funny. He ran to your sister? Gosh what a cry baby.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:25 AM
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9. Tell him that a kids' party is not the proper venue
for political discussions.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:27 AM
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14. That is actually my best idea
I am not in the mood for this guy today.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:28 AM
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15. And why ruin the kids' party?
I know, I know-I have a RW relative I now avoid like the plague-it's always about THEM.

But still, why go along with it?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:31 AM
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18. Good advice
I just want one snappy comeback for him.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:33 AM
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20. How about this
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 11:35 AM by notsodumbhillbilly
for a snappy comeback? "In the words of your VP, go fuck yourself".
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:44 AM
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27. Or as Jon Stewart would say
"Go Cheney yourself." I find myself using that one a lot. ;)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:19 PM
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37. But not in front of the kids
LOL
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:48 AM
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31. How about my favorite
"Sorry, I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent."
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:50 AM
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32. winner!
:applause:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:20 PM
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38. I used to have that bumper sticker!
What a great comeback.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:31 AM
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17. Agree. The day should be about the kids, not the grown ups
It's their birthday party, nothing should spoil that.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:25 AM
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10. Smile real big
and ask him how the indictments are working for him. Merry Fitzmas and Treasons Greetings!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:29 AM
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16. You know what's funny, Muse?
He ain't no right winger. He just says this shit to piss me off. He hates me far more than he loves any political cause. I doubt he even votes.

His mom is a recovering repub and she engages me in conversations about stuff. She really likes me and that pisses him off big time.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:47 AM
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30. Hey, p2
When he starts up, be politically savvy. Come armed with a whole series of facts, and just ask him to defend the positions that he "takes."

If he can't (and by your description he won't be able to) then tell him you really don't care to argue with someone who is so painfully ignorant of the issues.

Put the jerk on the defensive, and you'll win. And he'll be quiet.

You know how us guys are - we just hate to be shown the fool. :)


('cept me, of course) :hi:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:13 PM
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36. He db!
I am thinking that just saying "Merry Fitzmas, Treasons Greetings" will leave him pretty speechless.

I have shown this ass to be a fool so many times in 20 years. That is one of the many reasons he hates me. Last year, we were cleaning out my mom's basement and he showed up. Not to work mind you, but to scrounge for 'stuff'. My dad had a huge sports memoribilia collection and I know asshole wanted to grab something for himself. But we were thinking ahead and had that stuff stashed in a safe deposit box years ago when my dad died. Anyhow, he comes walking in to 'help' and I must have given him a nasty look cause he just lit in to me - right in front of his 7 year old son. I sent the kid on an errand and told asshole that he is an ass and I wasn't the least bit surprised my sister divorced him. He started to say something and my son walked up. He had heard ahole go off on me. The look on my grown son's face - I was afraid he was going to slug ahole! But he just said "Mom, do you need any help down here?" while staring ahole down. Then my son grabbed my cell phone and called his dad, told him we really needed his help ASAP. By the time my hubby arrived, ahole was long gone.

Next time hubby saw ahole, he told him politely and quietly that he didn't appreciate the way he talked to his wife and he knew my mother would not want to hear him disrespect me like that. Hubby has a black belt in karate and ahole has always 'respected' him. LOL
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Milspec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:52 AM
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33. Damn. How about "Thats Nice"
Followed by "Thats Nice", "Thats Nice", "Thats Nice", (softly)"Go piss up a rope", "Thats Nice", "Thats Nice", "Thats Nice".
Thats why I plead "poor health" to many unpleasant events. However I live for my nephew, so can't miss events with him in Oklahoma!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:23 PM
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39. My other nephew is a die hard liberal
He is 27 and credits me for shaping him politically. His parents are libs but not nearly as involved as I am. I took him to marches and rallies and he sat on a picket line with me one time.

So I am hoping my younger nephew will also be favorably influenced by his aunt the die hard liberal.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:26 AM
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12. had bday party for 8 yr old last night, all rw family over
i am cleaning kitchen, brother and father crossfiring in the kitchen about streisand. i filled dishwasher and ignored, and then when they got to a point of conversation i could agree and participate in i did

i rose to the occasion. my sons bday was not a place to get into a fight about something really really stupid and insignificant, like streisand. i have been buying her stuff since i was a teenager. my father took me to funny girl for 12th bday, just he and i.

hardly worth it

smile, say whatever, just walk away. none of it is a to do.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:32 AM
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19. We must be the bigger ones in this battle
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:34 AM
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21. Tell him that you both understand
each others politics. That you both are unwavering in your positions. That for him to keep pushing his unwelcome views (which you find insane) on you, repeatedly, displays signs of a stalker personality.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:38 AM
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22. ha ha
That is a great comeback.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:38 AM
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23. I agree with madaboutharry
Send your ex-brother-in-law (hey, I don't know why you're still calling him your brother-in-law if your sister doesn't call him her husband) to Coventry. Don't even acknowledge his existence. If he talks to you, you hear nothing. So what if your niece and nephew notice it? If they ask about it, tell them why, as calmly and rationally as you can. You didn't mention their ages, but if they're old enough, they'll get it. And if they're old enough to notice that you're not talking to him, they're probably old enough to understand why. Don't tell them within his earshot, though, because that'll be acknowledging that you do hear him.

If asshole-boy presses you for why you're avoiding talking to him, I mean, if he gets really insistent, well then, I suppose -- you still don't hear him! (I'll bet you thought I was going to say you should tell him, didn't you? No.)

The pictures from Crawford should be fun if there are good stories to go along with them.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:40 AM
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24. With the guy my advice
is to ignore him. People like that only like attention. If you don't give them any than they'll hopefully leave you a lone. You're there for the kids and your sister and not for him. So just ignore him. Hopefully he'll get the picture and just spend time with his kids which is why he's supposed to be there (their birthday's). Just keep in mind that indictments are coming soon and you'll be able to run that in his face next time you see him. Or at least just give a big smile. :)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:40 AM
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25. POSTPONED!!
Just called my sister to see if she wanted me to pick anything up on my way over. Her mother-in-law just canceled so they are postponing the party a week. It will be at an Italian restaurant. Whew! I can sit at the opposite end of the table from asshole. :woohoo:
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:54 AM
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34. Note:
Meatballs make great projectiles.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:01 PM
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35. LOL
:rofl:
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:47 AM
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28. Well....
I hate bullies. And I'm known for saying shocking things at inappropriate times. I'd probably say something like:

"Shut your pie-hole, lemming boy.", with the most stoic face I possibly could muster.

or

"FOX called...they want their talking points back".

But I say things that most people think are bad. So, unless you're going for jaw droppers...don't take my advice. ;)
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:39 PM
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40. "FOX called, they want their talking points back,"
:rofl: I am SO stealing that!
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