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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:27 AM
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Abramoff to Ralph Reed: "Need serious swat....Can you ping Karl on this?"
TIME: An Unholy Alliance?
A TIME investigation shows the lobbyist now at the center of a federal probe had a good friend eager to open doors at the White House: former Christian Coalition chief Ralph Reed
By ADAM ZAGORIN, KAREN TUMULTY AND MASSIMO CALABRESI WASHINGTON

Posted Sunday, Oct. 23, 2005


There was only one reason that clients ranging from Native-American tribes to Fortune 500 CEOs to Pacific Island potentates were willing to pay Jack Abramoff millions. The lobbyist at the center of a spreading scandal that has touched numerous lawmakers, including former House majority leader Tom DeLay, had access like few others to people in power. But in the place that mattered most, even someone as well-connected as Abramoff needed help. When he had to make sure his clients' concerns got the attention of the right people in the George W. Bush White House, Abramoff often turned to a longtime friend and business associate whose ties there—especially with the President's most trusted adviser, Karl Rove—were far better than his: former Christian Coalition executive director Ralph Reed, an operative of such political talent that he made the cover of TIME in 1995, at age 33, with a line that declared him "the Right Hand of God."

Reed, a key Bush campaign strategist and the favorite in the 2006 race to become Lieutenant Governor of Georgia, was an obliging, even eager middleman, judging by e-mail exchanges between the two, which have been obtained by TIME. (The e-mails have attracted the interest of federal investigators already looking into whether Abramoff defrauded his Indian clients—a charge he denies.) Ten days after 9/11, for instance, Abramoff was promoting a business venture to rent cruise ships to the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to billet rescue workers off New York City. Reed assured Abramoff he had "put in a tag call to Karl to find out the best contact at FEMA."

Four months later, Abramoff wrote Reed that he needed some "serious swat from Karl" to get the Justice Department to free $16.3 million for a jail that his Choctaw Indian clients were planning to build in Mississippi. As it happened, Abramoff had caught Reed at a ripe moment. "Am at a lunch with Rove at the meeting and just talked to the AG ," he e-mailed Abramoff on his BlackBerry. "Will report the substance shortly." Reed agreed to give Rove materials arguing the Choctaws' case....The cruise-ship scheme never came to fruition. The Choctaws got their jail, but so far, there's no evidence that the White House lifted a finger to make it happen. Abramoff declined to comment.

But in at least one instance, Reed acknowledges he used his White House access for Abramoff. In December 2001 the lobbyist was eager to prevent Angela Williams from being appointed head of the Interior Department's Office of Insular Affairs, which oversees the government's dealings with the Northern Mariana Islands, an important Abramoff client. Williams is married to former Federal Trade Commissioner Orson Swindle, who was a Vietnam pow with Senator John McCain. The subject header of Abramoff and Reed's e-mail exchange (it is unclear who initiated it) contained a misstatement about Williams that is practically Freudian in what it reveals about their animosity toward McCain: "Were you able to whack McCain's wife yet?" Reed assured Abramoff he had "weighed in heavily" with the White House personnel office to block her appointment but had received no commitment. "Any ideas on how we can make sure she does not get it?" Abramoff asked. "Can you ping Karl on this? I can't believe they just don't get this done?" Reed replied, "I am seeing him tomorrow at the WH and plan to discuss it with him as well." Baron says, "Ralph passed the information on to the White House. He is confident the Administration's decision was based on the merit." As for Rove, White House spokeswoman Erin Healy tells TIME, "It is my understanding that Mr. Rove does not recall any of these incidents."...


http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1121973,00.html?cnn=yes
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:34 AM
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1. "It is my understanding that Mr. Rove does not recall any of these
incidents."...
<snip>

These jerkoffs all think that just because it worked for Ronnie during Iran-Contra it should work for all of them. (Judy, Scooter, KKKarl, the whole damn bunch.)

Well, Ronnie's mind was about gone, what's their excuse. I personally believe their just greedy, evil, treasonous bastards.


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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:26 PM
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29. Unfortunately for Mr. Rove's "unreliable" memory
There are a shit load more PDAs, and archiving email servers lying around to jog it, than there were in Ronny Raygun's day.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:37 PM
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31. Poor, poor Karl. He must have a terrible, mind-wasting disease.
Mad cow?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:36 AM
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2. I'd love to see Reed go down with this whole bunch of criminals.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:21 AM
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10. Reed and Norquist
They both received tribal funds from Papa Jack (and Reed, a trip to Scotland). Robert Ney received campaign contributions and a trip to Scotland. David Safavian, a Bu$h appointee and former lobbying partner of Abramoff, has already been arrested (lied about contacts with Abramoff concerning a federal land deal .. also on trip to Scotland). I say throw them all in the slammer in kilts. Bubba will love that!



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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:52 AM
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12. LOL!
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 06:47 PM
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36. If their ever is a thorough investigation on the corruption of this WH
there will be many surprising names linked to absolute criminal corruption. But I doubt the much of the truth will ever come out.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:16 PM
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39. You and me both
I'd like these idiots to be outed for the hypocritical slime bags they are.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:36 AM
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3. Wow. This administration is so corrupt it is bizzare.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:39 AM
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4. "ping" Hmmm.
Don't they use that one at FreakRepublic?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:05 AM
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8. Yep, it makes them feel important
Also it's like telling the world, we're such good friends that I can even access to your computer.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:54 AM
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17. I don't think it comes from the ICMP (Internet) 'ping'
I believe it relates to the sonar 'ping' -- operating below the surface. I think these people like to think of themselves as German U-boat captains, out of public view and obsessed with missions of covert destruction. There's something about being in a position to stalk, kill, and destroy without exposing themselves that give them a woody. I'd be willing to bet that they regard investigations and indictments like depth charges. Being sneaky and destroying unarmed targets turns 'em on.
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:45 AM
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16. Tha'ts the first thing that came to my mind, too.
I've seen that term used over there. Yes, I must admit I have stooped that low by visiting that awful site.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:42 AM
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5. To think that these are the types of people that have access and
make decisions that affect this country just makes me sick. I have been so hopeful that the Plame and AIPAC investigations and trials will help us start over. The corruption runs so deep, everyone is DC has been compromised. I don't know if there is any hope.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 09:00 AM
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6. Hurricane Abramoff: Catagory 2 and Building
From a simple Repugnican depression just a few months ago, this storm has blown through Florida, Ohio, Maryland, Montana, Georgia and about to rachet up another notch.

I'm glad the right wing hate machine and corporate media is all but ignoring these scandals as they are slowly, quietly and efficiently working their way through the judicial systems...and unlike the higher profile scandals, this one has the biggest wallop.

Besides being the nail that drives the Hammer into the big house and destroys pretty boy Ralphie Reed and flushes Grover Norquist, the money trails are what will be the most fun to watch unravel.

While Watergate was focused on the cover-up...who knew what and when...just like the Plame case, there also was a parallel and far more devestating case that unraveled the financial underpinnings of the Nixon regime and the RNC. Abramoff is the loose thread that could open the spigot on the current generation of plumbers.

Peace...
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:00 AM
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7. Katrina link?
**Ten days after 9/11, for instance, Abramoff was promoting a business venture to rent cruise ships to the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to billet rescue workers off New York City.**

Sooooooooooooo - anyone know from whom FEMA is "renting cruise ships" to house Katrina refugees?



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pk_du Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:01 PM
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19. 236 million dollar deal for Carnival Cruiselines
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:14 AM
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9. 'Mob Link in Abramoff scandal'
http://www.madcowprod.com/index.html

**World Exclusive**
**Must Credit The MadCowMorningNews**
by Daniel Hopsicker

Last week's indictment of three men with Mob ties in the gangland-style murder of gambling ship magnate Gus Boulis during Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff's take-over of the gambling cruise ship line revealed deep Mob connections at the highest levels of the Republican Party.

Now The MadCowMorningNews has learned exclusively of more Mob ties to the case. One of the principals in the scandal, Adam Kidan, an Abramoff partner and a former Republican “fund-raiser,” was the co-owner and general counsel of a Caribbean island hotel-casino with Rosario Spadaro, called "a member of the Sicilian Mafia" in an Associated Press story reporting his recent arrest in Italy in a major investigation into international arms trafficking.

“St. Maarten hotel owner arrested, linked to Mafia” read the headline.

“Italian police have arrested St. Maarten's most prominent hotel owner, Rosario Spadaro, accusing him of laundering money for the Sicilian Mafia, Italian police said Thursday,” read the AP report in the May 20, 2005 Orlando Sentinel.

..more..
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Mike_The_Computer Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:24 AM
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11. The Founding Fathers are flailing, spinning, careening in their graves.
This shit is SO not what they intended.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:53 AM
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13. Oh, wow, that puts this slime in some important perspective --
and you are so right, Mike.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:27 AM
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14. Idea for Ralph Reed campaign commercial
JACK ABRAMOFF-RALPH REED EMAIL:
"WERE YOU ABLE TO WHACK MCCAIN'S WIFE YET?"
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:49 PM
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22. I'm just freaking that he'd run for public office.
I pity the people of Georgia if that charlatain gets in. Using god for personal and financial gain... great character.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:09 PM
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26. Reed should become the poster boy for the "Religious" Right...
and its risible claim to the high moral ground.
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RogerARTcom Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:44 AM
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15. HOW DID WE GET IN THIS MESS U-ALL ?
1. HOW DID WE GET IN THIS MESS U-ALL ?

from the ( Re-Written) DECLARATION of INDEPENDENCE

by RogerART.com Feb, 2001


To PROVE that MILLIONAIRES, in disproportionate numbers to the US Population,

have Monopolized and bought the Government… Compare the numbers below.

Approximately 286 million people make up the American Population.

280 MILLION PEOPLE have LESS THAN ONE MILLION DOLLARS.

6 MILLION PEOPLE have MORE THAN ONE MILLION DOLLARS.

Yet in the bush family government most are MULTIMILLIONAIRES.
Comparing these numbers is proof and confirms that

Millionaires Overwhelm, WE the PEOPLE, in the Executive, Judicial and Legislative branches of Government and this is criminal.

BUSH is a MULTI-MILLIONAIRE and part of a MULTI-MILLION Dollar Family Political Business

CHENEY is a MULTI-MILLIONAIRE and OIL WAR PROFITEER with serious energy conflict of interests

MOST ALL of the bush CABINET and APPOINTEES are MULTI-MILLIONAIRES

6 of the 9 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES are MILLIONAIRES

MORE THAN 100 people in the HOUSE and SENATE are MILLIONAIRES

The Numbers above Confirm that there is a

Conspiracy in America Today.

Treason has Occurred

and

the FIX is in…
.

Continued at

http://www.RogerART.com

Thank U, RogerART.com
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:58 AM
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18. I hope McCain sees the reference to his wife being "whacked"
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:39 PM
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21. Knowing that crowd, are they SURE it was freudian? n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 06:14 PM
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34. McCain kissed & made up with Bush..He's lost his moral imperative
:(
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:22 PM
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20. White House for Sale, White House for Sale........
the Republicans went apeshit when Clinton supposedly "sold" the White House to friends and contributors yet they're strangely silent about this little and many other little "White House for Sale" events by the bush administration.
Why...they wouldn't have a DOUBLE STANDARD, would they? :wow:
Not the honesty and integrity Republicans! :eyes:
Say it ain't so Joe!
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:50 PM
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23. Filthy scumbags
pukes
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:51 PM
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24. I have a major issue with this sentence here...
"The Choctaws got their jail, but so far, there's no evidence that the White House lifted a finger to make it happen" lifted a finger?? I'm sorry, what kind of journalism is that? Something smells quite rotten here..
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ToolTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:54 PM
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25. No surprises, Ralph Reed has been blowing Jack Abramoff
since their sleepovers on Jack's couch in the early 80s while they were running the National College Rethug Coalition together.
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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 03:54 PM
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27. Hopefully, very soon Fitzgerald will PING them all!
:evilgrin:
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 06:38 PM
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35. They're all in need of a good pinging!
:D
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:09 PM
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28. Here is more on the scumbag that is Reed.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:33 PM
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30. Money and Power and all these people the media catered too
instead of reported on!!!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 05:24 PM
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32. there was a Federal TRADE Commissioner by the name of SWINDLE!
Repubs are so desperate, watch them argue "prior disclosure was evident." shrug shrug.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 05:47 PM
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33. This SHOULD finish off little Ralph politically. My guess is he won't
even make it to the general election.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 07:00 PM
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37. One still wonders if the people of Georgia
really will be stupid enough to elect this man to public office.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:52 AM
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38. Heh... "Right Hand of God" cover
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:38 PM
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40. The press should be more careful buying into stuff like this --
the man's a total fraud. Thanks for posting the TIME cover.
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