Tweety just said "The President's not telling the truth." 9:40 am Imus

[chimpymustgo]

"We got jobbed into going to war. Naming names: Cheney staff.

[chimpymustgo]

1. Who put it in the speech? Somebody with oomph.

Imus suggested Rumsfeld...
Tweety: Tenent in hard place - Cheney so powerful,
W doesn't have guts to face Cheney down. All comes down to Cheney

[Dirty Hippie]

2. Who is Tweety???

Been wondering...

[chimpymustgo]

4. Chris Matthews. What did he know and when did he know it?

Pinning a lot on Tenent hearings today. But is putting the ball in Cheney's court - very strongly. he didn't support the war, but it otherwise a huge whore.

[rocktivity]

23. Chris Matthews is nicknamed Tweety

because his large blond head is so reminiscent of


rocknation

[sam sarrha]

24. Tweety could be Cheney......

maybe Cheney got Bush to do that silly photo opp showing that bush was in totally in charge telling an directing everyone what to write ..i wondered why it looked so silly...and tax payers paid for that!

[0007]

3. 'Tis good to hear a network whore speak out

* * * * *

[chimpymustgo]

5. W - Ted Baxter reading a speech.

Somebody told the President something not true. Read it, kid, tell 100 million people we want to go to war.

[chimpymustgo]

8. Who's calling the shots? Cheney or Bush? Cheney.

We went to war based on people thinking this guy could launch a nuclear weapon. We were told Saddam connected to 9-11.

American history - this immoral - attacking another country - you better have a damn good reason.

W's going to have to come out and have a conversation, explaining.

Battle emerging between Pres and VP over who's boss!

[CO Liberal]

17. No - Ted Baxter Had a Few Redeeming Qualities

W has none.

[wes_clark_for_pres]

19. I liked that!

really made it sound like it will come down to Bush vs. Cheney. (who is calling the shots... Who pushed for it being in the speech? Obviously Cheney.

[liberalnurse]

6. Oh Holy Mackerel.....

This is good!!!!!Cheney is going down.......Tweety does make sense...He smells blood and wants in on the action.

[caledesi]

29. Tweety was against the war, so now he firing back.

Used to be a speech writer for Carter. He knows his stuff here.

[meti57b]

7. Chris is rockin'!!!

"I can't imagine this president having the guts to face Cheney down like that". .... Chris Matthews.... a few mins ago.

Matthews is basically anti-war at heart. I too, heard how thrilled and excited he was when the US attacked Iraq, but despite that, he is anti-war and he's reverting to his basic self. He knows Bush* is a first-class brainless idiot.

What Matthews is saying on Imus is great! I hope there's a transcript around somewhere.

[greyl]

9. ...until he said bush is smart.

Other than that, yes.

[liberalnurse]

10. Yea, he started to rescue *bush at the end....

Well it's a start......He thinks they can have a family meeting or something (*bush and cheney) and things can be hashed out...cheney gets a scolding and then they kiss and make-up...... (summarizing the end of his rant)

Oh, I don't think it will be so easy.......Heads will roll and the stain can not be washed away....


Dean 2004....

[CWebster]

11. I guess you guys missed Tweety's performance last night?

Where he massacred Dennis Kuchinich like a cold-hearted gestapo?

Tweety's spin:


Forever going to bat for his captain and sterling stud and dream of a real-man president, a good and decent lackey who got tricked by some "squirt".

[PROGRESSIVE1]

25. Tweety...

gets must get something out of being Bush's Bitch.

[UTUSN]

12. Before Summarizing Below, Am Attacking Tweety Here

Re: "Tweety's basically anti-war"-----more like covering his own weaselhood, toying with his FAKE Dem image by PLAYING "anti-war" then reversing himself to his MACHO-worship when the early Iraq-Attack looked so good in combat fatigues. Here's from last night about Tweety savaging KUCINICH:

In another thread somebody is giving him a pass on being a wingnut whore because he "was anti-war". Tweety did some so-called "anti-war" thing, then reversed himself, bedazzled by the MACHO antics of the early Iraq attack.

In another post, somebody said he should be fired for the DK incident. Hah! He wasn't fired when he badgered Kathleen WILLEY about naming a name of the so-called "jogger", she wouldn't; he DID and it was WRONG and set-off Pat BUCHANAN's mentally disabled brother into a GUN INCIDENT at that WRONG person's house.

He DAILY has acted as a Repuke operative for at least the past five years. We go through the "Tweety Wars" every time Tweety deigns to throw us a CRUMB. He boasts about his, um, VERSATILITY (cough), how he can "play Right and play Left" and predictably infuriate each side at will, which he considers a sign of his superior intelligence.

In these Tweety Wars, his core groupies from WAY back to when he appeared to be one of us (Hardball, the book, 1988) invariably find the latest crumb to be Tweety "SEEING THE LIGHT," "COMING (back) TO HIS SENSES," "RETURNING TO HIS TRUE SELF."

His previous most vicious attack was what he did to DONAHUE. Tonight in his stunning attack on KUCINICH (I'm a KERRY supporter albeit a DEM above all), he was his ONLY true self, the street THUG he always was, whichever side he was momentarility on.

[peacetalksforall]

15. Do not trust Matthews

that man is lethally anti-Democratic because he works for a right wing corporation and will not do anything to jeopordize his job and income and ego perch. He is a phoney and hypocrite through and through about being a Democrat. Every little tidbit that would make you think otherwise is calculated since he is a tool of the right wing, whether or not he fools himself. He is not on your side. Look at him and think GE and NBC - they and he are not on your side.

[TreasonousBastard]

13. I screwed up....

and didn't start the tape running. Lotsa people around here don't like Matthews much, but he's nobody's fool.

I did hear him say that he ran this by Noonan and Buchanan, past Rep. speechwriters, and checked out how the speech is supposed to be vetted. Something went very wrong.

The "war camp" (most likely Cheney) stuck it in there, and had Ted Baxter read it.

And "Baxter" doesn't have the brains or balls to call a meeting and face anybody down.

Something about "he doesn't have the guts to look Cheney in the eye."

hehe

[PurityOfEssence]

33. Matthews is his own fool

Do not trust this man. Please do not "like" this man. He is no better than Bill O'Reilly, and they're of the same stripe.

Journalism is largely dead in this country; it's infotainment. True Journalism attempts at impartiality that's devoid of self-aggrandizement. Do I have to say more? Okay, I will. When the Journalist becomes the star, he/she is then filtering everything through what makes him/her look better than other human beings. The essence of Hardball is the same as the no-spin zone: I'm better than everyone else, because I ask the tough questions and strive for truth.

Matthews is petty and vindictive; he loves smashing someone's persona in public to show how inferior they are to him. As for his afilliations, he's a definite Dem-hater, regardless of past employment. This person fits better with the Republican ideology of dismissing inferiors and enjoying the pain of the wretched to such a degree that mere opportunism can't be a plausible excuse.

Right now, he's playing the field for two reasons: he likes throwing rocks at wounded birds like the currently winged Junior, and he's cynically trying to guarantee his future by saying just enough to support each side. The former is just because he's a sadistic blowhard, the latter is pure political survival based on inability to predict the future.

May he rot in hell in public, marginalized and struggling for third-tier punditry, forever raging how the world didn't appreciate him.

[gratuitous]

20. We'll see -- these momentary aberrations have happened before

But then Chimpy goes out in his Manly Man Brand tight jeans to chop wood and Tweety springs wood. Or Chimpy holds up a carrier for an extra day to prance around on deck, and Tweety prances into the studio to gush over Chimpy's "manly characteristic" with the hideous Gordon Liddy.

Nope, I've seen Tweety snap to the prevailing winds too many times to think this is anything more than an aberration. He'll be back up Chimpy's colon by the end of the week, or Monday at the latest.

[UTUSN]

14. Summary: Tweety's Death Warrant:: Fingered CHEENEE

Was going to start a GD thread, but found this one.

Tweety did his own McCARTHYite thing, naming names like the best of the Hollywood Red-stoolies---------I submit, as a cover both for his man Shrub, but ALSO to cover his OWN weaseldom.

His thesis for a couple of weeks now is that "hard line hawks from the VP's office" are the true movers. Today he started out naming David HADLEY and Scooter LIBBY, but throughout coming back to CHEENEE.

He said that former WH speechwriters, him, Pat BUCHANAN, and Peg NOONER, all agree that the speechwriting process starts with an "A" draft written by the writers being circulated to NSC's staff, VP's staff, State, Defense, and "maybe" CIA. ("The A-1 draft" is what goes to the Prez.)

"Who put 'it' into the 'B' draft AFTER IT HAD GONE AROUND THE LOOP. This person would have to be pretty BIG, big enough to scare TENET and POWELL. The pRez.

"The staff always think they're smarter than the principals. THEY (not Tweety) think (Shrub) is a Ted BAXTER, reading what's in front of him.

"What (Shrub) needs to do is to call a meeting with HADLEY, LIBBY, with CHEENEE in the room, and say 'I want to know who the hell put it in there,' then fire him. He needs to (address the public) and talk like we're talking here. But he acts like hes' part of the cover-up. I can't imagine this pRez having the guts to face CHEENEE.

"The only reason we know about this cover-up is because Joe WILSON wrote the op-ed. The very next day the WH puts out the statement that 'A high Administration official (retracts)'-------WHO had the power to retract.

"(Covering for Tweety himself: ) We went to war because we believed the COUNTRY was in danger of being attacked. It's not something (inconsequential). Forget about (all the other issues)"---we thought we were being attacked, nice cover-Tweets.

By the way, in contrast to Tweety's brave (cowardly) bullying of others on Hardball, when he is on the Don ANUS show he COWERS and GROVELS. ANUS told him to CALM DOWN and WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU, which Tweety TOOK.

[robbedvoter]

16. Tweety IS a weasel - the good stuff is to be taken not as

"seing the light" as much as opportunistic smelling the wind change. As such, these statements should be enjoyed - as signs of the times("whore attacks *"), not as Tweety's redemption. Despicable as he was on Kuchinich, "Ted Baxter" is funny, and "W didn't tell the truth" good to hear. I apply the same role to, say, MoDo.

[Aries]

18. He must read this blog...

Xymphora

"...There are two obvious anomalies with these documents:


1. the actual forgery is incompetently done, but using paper that would not be available to the average amateur forger; and

2. there is some kind of weird time warp going on, with the forger appearing to operate on the basis of information that is ten to fifteen years out of date.


How do we explain this? I think the forger used as his starting point copies of genuine documentation involving the government of Niger and the government of Iraq. The only unusual aspect of this is that these documents were from the 1980's. In other words, the forger took copies of documents from fifteen years ago, and cut and pasted them to look like they were documents from a few years ago. So the forger must have been an individual who:


1. is not a professional intelligence agent, as a professional would have done a much better job and wouldn't have made the serious and obvious errors,

2. is not from Niger, for someone from Niger wouldn't have made the errors, and

3. is someone who had access to internal Iraqi government files from the 1980's.


In other words, the forger was almost certainly a functionary in the Iraqi bureaucracy of the 1980's, who took copies of the Niger documents with him when he defected out of Iraq. He is almost certainly one of the Iraqi defectors that Cheney has been using to provide much of the raw material on which the attack on Iraq was justified. All this talk about Italian intelligence, and French intelligence, and intelligence sources from 'another country', and a mysterious diplomat from Niger, are all fog meant to confuse the issue...."

(More about Cheney follows)

[badgolfer]

21. Cheney

I remember seeing Cheney on Meet The Press stating emphatically that Iraq was reconstituting nuclear weapons. If I remember correctly, Cheney had the whole hour justifying going to war with Iraq. Why isn't the press showing this video clip? This shows exactly who in the adminstration was behind the real push for this item to be in the SOU speech.

[sam sarrha]

27. during the invasion we didnt even protedt the nuke facility

due to the absence of soldiers protedting the nuke developement site, civilians took barrels containing unanium in liquid and dumped them to use for water barrels...i guess thay knew we wouldnt have the utilities on soon.. this was discovered when news cane of a lot of viligers getting sick, not because we were taking care of business.

[caledesi]

30. Absoultlely BG...Cheney is the one.

[rocktivity]

22. YOU didn't tell the truth, either, Tweety!

rocknation

[Snellius]

26. Matthews can not really bring himself to blame his hero

Tweety seems to think that Bush is just his basically honest, straight-shooting, regular guy who is being held hostage by an evil cabal of fanatical neo-cons.

[sam sarrha]

28. here's why so many people support him in spite of it all...........

please go to www.renanabrooks.com and click on '*recent articles' bush is technically a 'Charlie Manson', not his fault, he just has this everybodys buddy party boy chrisma, and a pleasent insidious way of convincing people they better listen to him or his catacylsmic schitzophrenic world view will swallow them up. i just LOVE DR. Brooks........and i am going to buy her new book!

[KG]

31. why do we waste bandwidth on the spittle flecked raving of a moron?

:shrug:

[Cocoa]

32. this is a skit

he's playing a journalist who is accusing the V.P.

Who knows how it will end, maybe it will end like the other skit did, where he played an antiwar journalist who realized he was wrong.

:shrug:

[chromotone]

34. Chris Matthews is a Media Whore par excellence...

Consider this writing:

RIGHT UP UNTIL Election Day, we heard over and over about the “legitimacy” questions that would arise should Al Gore win the electoral map as George Bush won the popular vote. Chris Matthews, writing contemptuously of the vice president’s political morality, noted, “Al Gore, knowing him as we do, may have no problem taking the presidential oath after losing the popular vote to George W. Bush.” The Bush camp, according reports in The New York Daily News, were busy planning to challenge such a result. “The one thing we don’t do is roll over,” one Bush aide promised, “We fight.”
http://www.commondreams.org/views/111000-106.htm

I believe (although I wasn't able to find a link) that Matthews even called on Gore to concede the election to Bush (if Gore won the EC and Bush the PV). Of course, nothing was said/written after the election when the results went the other way.