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jeanarrett Donating Member (813 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:32 AM
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16-Year Old Arrested in Vitale Slaying Case
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:32 AM
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1. Good. Now can we please move on to some REAL news?
This thing has been taking up WAAAAAAY to much time on the local news (bay area).
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:35 AM
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3. A murderer out in the loose isn't real news?
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:48 AM
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14. Are you suggesting this wasn't over-hyped and sensationalized?
When they give the same amount of coverage to a murder in Oakland or Bayview/Hunters Point or Richmond, come talk to me.

Being rich and white gets you exponentially more news coverage, and I'm sick to death of it.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:32 PM
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20. I still can manage sympathy for white murder victims.
That poor black deaths don't get news coverage is a travesty; still, can't help but think this murder was indeed 'real news'.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:35 PM
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21. I'm not saying don't feel sympathy for them.
My problem is with the disproportionate news coverage, as I thought I'd made quite clear.
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:45 PM
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23. Now that husband didn't do it, it will fizzle
The more the finger seemed to point to Horowitz, the more sensationalized it became. Perhaps a lot of people in the media were secretly hoping that Nancy Grace would be made a fool of.

You're absolutely right about disproportionate coverage. How many women have been murdered in America since Saturday, and how many of their names do we know? You've got to be rich or hot to have your murder noticed outside your community in this country.
:(
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:54 PM
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25. I hear you about disproportionate news coverage
The press makes even a horrific murder undignified in its macabre coverage.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:56 PM
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26. I agree with you-it's a big story in California and that would be about it
Yeah fine announce it nationally and then move on...that story has been covered for HOURS today and it's ridiculous.

I don't need to know all this intimate crap about these people because he's a television legal commentator (that prior to this week I don't even recall seeing)

Disproportionate doesn't even cover it...I have no need to hear Nancy Grace carrying on and half crying about this ad nauseum every hour on the hour.

I am sorry for the family of the woman, but come on... this doesn't warrant around the clock debate and discussion like it's big news.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:46 PM
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24. Maybe in the local area...
but given that there are 40 or 50 murders every day across the country, the killing of a woman in Oakland hardly merits the kind of national mass media attention it has gotten. I don't care if the husband is a close personal friend of Nancy Grace.
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jeanarrett Donating Member (813 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:37 AM
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7. I'm sure the kids being dumped in the bay
will overtake this soon. :eyes:
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:41 AM
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11. it has..
wall to wall coverage on both cnn and msnbc. havent theg uts to check faux.
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:38 AM
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8. Sorry,you'll now have to hear about psycho mom throwing her kids overboard
The news definitely sensationalizes terrible incidents! It's bad karma!

On the other hand, I'm hoping for some sensationalism on Fitzgerald's case! That will be fun! Bad Karma, but fun!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:40 AM
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10. hey, that's Bay Area too.
:wtf:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:34 AM
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2. Shoot, do you have a snip? I don't have a password for MN.
Thanks
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jeanarrett Donating Member (813 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:35 AM
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4. This is all of it.
16-year-old arrested in Vitale slaying case

By Kelli Phillips and Cassandra Braun

CONTRA COSTA TIMES


Investigators arrested a 16-year-old boy in the slaying of Pamela Vitale, wife of famed defense attorney Daniel Horowitz, late Wednesday while serving searching warrants at a home in Walnut Creek and another at a residence on Hunsaker Canyon Road.

Jimmy Lee, Sheriff's Office spokesman, wouldn't confirm the arrest this morning, but said a press briefing would be held later today.

A law enforcement source said a teenager who lived down the street from Vitale had been questioned and taken to juvenile hall.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:42 AM
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12. for those pesky registration required sites
try www.bugmenot.com

:hi:
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:06 PM
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19. that's handy
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:36 AM
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5. Is that who Horowitz thought it was?
Is he handing out his business card? Will he want the kid tried as an adult?

This should be interesting, if it remains high-profile. If it goes to juvie court, nobody will be able to cover it very well.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:38 AM
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9. Nope, it's not the same guy.
See my link below.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:37 AM
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6. Here's another link:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/10/20/MNGHFFBCM713.DTL

The motive in the killing appears to be related to a credit-card theft scheme allegedly carried out by Dyleski and another teenage friend, who has not been implicated in the killing, the sources said on condition of anonymity.

Sometimes I'm thankful I'm not wealthy. Such a sad case. A poor man who lost his beloved wife over money ...
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:43 AM
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13. Thanks, that is a good article
and explains a lot.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:52 AM
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15. Nope, the "I love to rant about horrid murders" prime time media
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 11:52 AM by ElectroPrincess
whores like Grace, Hannity, Van Sustren, et. al. have a new vile "MOM DID IT" sensationalist murder story to sink their teeth into.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1863826

It' all begins anew. If you like to watch this stuff, then the answer is YES, you have become the PRODUCT = "dumbed down by hype and murder sensationalism."

:puke:
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:53 AM
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16. I have a got feeling that this guy has two lives....
Law Judge and Susan Smith-like. All his TV law buddies have him on a pedestal. Who better to commit the perfect crime but the judge himself. This fish smells bad.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:58 AM
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18. I thought so too, until I read the article I linked.
I do wonder if/how this kid knew Pam Vitale or her husband however.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:56 AM
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17. Someone Killed Dick Vitale????-
Hoops will never be the same
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:58 PM
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27. That's slam dunk!
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 01:59 PM by 0007
Edited: To say I can't stand Dick Vitale.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:43 PM
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22. Condelences to her family. She seemed like a nice person. n/t
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