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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 10:55 AM Original message |
Farrakan and the "crazy" creation myths of Nation of Islam |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thanks for the post, Hamden. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 11:22 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. The "white people made by scientist myth"... |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 11:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Really? |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
3. agreed...all religious creation myths are bizarre...some are more |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
4. The people freaking out about Farrakhan did not listen to his speech |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
119. Many hate a strong Black leader like Farrakhan |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 03:08 AM Response to Reply #119 |
145. He's also a moonie, and cut from the same cloth as robertson and teevee |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
128. I heard Farrakhan mention every race in his speech yesterday. |
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sleipnir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
5. What we call Mythology, was someone's religion. |
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Benhurst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
7. One man's religion is another's superstition. NT |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
53. Amen :^) |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
8. For some - please note the "for some" (that's for those about to go on the |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
99. Indeed. n/t |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
9. Thanks. I agree. They're ALL fantasies. Made woman out of a rib, eh? |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
76. excellent point! |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
10. Recommended ! |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
82. Right |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #82 |
101. I been wonderin' that |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
11. Well, all creation myths are bizarre. But Farrakhan's is also evil. |
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eallen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Worse than a god ordering his chosen people to commit genocide? |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. And I set mine a SMIDGEN higher, I suppose. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
65. Oooh! I like these... |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. You should see Malcolm X or talk to any Black person over 35... |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Not different from any other religious justification for racisim. |
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itzamirakul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Yes and there are some religious practioners that practice |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
39. Would you also call it justification of racism? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. the poster is agruing that it's stupid, and most people understand that |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #43 |
66. And I'm saying that it's racist and therefore isn't "the same". |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. yeah...it's racist, as are the biblical justifications for slavery |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #75 |
89. And so one has to be against those, too. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. c'mon...the xtian beliefs are playing out right now in iraq |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 10:09 AM Response to Reply #97 |
159. I don't "equate" anything. I just note the racism of the creation myth |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 03:58 PM Response to Reply #159 |
185. "think" what you want |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 08:16 AM Response to Reply #185 |
189. I think you need to look up the word "condone" |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #189 |
192. i think you need to look up a few words |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 05:12 PM Response to Reply #192 |
193. What do I need to hear. |
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itzamirakul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
92. In your previous post you state... |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 08:21 AM Response to Reply #92 |
190. Well, how about the belief in a heaven as a reward for good deeds? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Kinda like the way the Old Testament provides the template ... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. well now, that's the $64,000.00 question, isn't it? |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Umm.... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. on the contrary, several people have said just that |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Then you need to actually read my post on that. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. At least now you not confusing the issue. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. most black people agree with you |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #48 |
69. No doubt, farrakhan is largely irrelevant |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. he seems to be trying to morph himself into something acceptable |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #74 |
91. I think he almost died. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
56. christianity is evil, as practiced by many |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 05:58 AM Response to Reply #56 |
152. Bingo |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 09:52 AM Response to Reply #56 |
155. It is. And nobody has trouble saying so. So..... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 05:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
151. And Willie Lynch and John Taylor were |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #151 |
168. No, they weren't. I guess that means Farrakhan's A-OK. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 06:03 AM Response to Reply #168 |
174. Our support for Farrakhan's message |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 08:51 AM Response to Reply #174 |
181. You're speaking for yourself, then |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 09:21 AM Response to Reply #181 |
184. Who knows |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 04:04 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. Well, he has joined the mainstream of two hundred years ago. |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
12. Yep, L Ron Hubbard was just one of the latest in a long line of |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. did Ron actually believe his book was bible or just his followers.. |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 02:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
165. hush, XENU SAVES!! |
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tjdee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
18. Chrisitanity makes black people feel bad about themselves? Wow! |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Do you remember Christianity in the 50s and 60s? Malcolm? Fanon? |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. The white Christian churches, yes. But Black churches... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. what about women's rights? and gay rights? |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. True. They have not been on the forefront of those issues |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. you haven't looked hard enough |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. I didn't say they are "progressive institutions" |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. i am not religous either |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. LOL! Same here. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. do you know why the AME church was started? |
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Prajna Sword (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
19. NOI Creation Myth |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. Not unlike what I said, post number 11. |
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ErisFiveFingers (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #47 |
70. Mormon racism... |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. 27 years, not ten. Still pretty scandalous, isn't it? |
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ErisFiveFingers (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 06:55 AM Response to Reply #79 |
176. J. Smith believed in black preisthood members. |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-19-05 08:29 AM Response to Reply #176 |
191. Thanks, I read it. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 09:59 AM Response to Reply #70 |
156. A pair of standard American Mormon Preachers tried to sell me that BS... |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #156 |
161. It's so interesting to see |
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ErisFiveFingers (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 06:59 AM Response to Reply #156 |
178. Was it like... |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 07:41 AM Response to Reply #178 |
179. No. Cain's punishment for killing Abel... |
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ErisFiveFingers (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 10:38 PM Response to Reply #179 |
188. No whitewash needed. |
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itzamirakul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
20. Recommended! Good post... |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I love that aphorism at the end of your post! nt |
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jonnyblitz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
26. yup, being an atheist ALL religious "myths" are equally |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
27. HamdenRice, I don't know why people give him a pass, but ... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. i don't think people give him a "pass" at all |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Of course they do. Read this thread. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. was he "spreading hate" yesterday? |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
110. I-N-D-E-E-D!!! |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. You are confusing two arguments |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. The Pope, Billy Graham? Sure, include them. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. You totally missed the point ... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
33. it was, and is the NOI's political message, not its religous one |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. He preaches racial hatred. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. excuses? the KKK wasn't always as the fringe group |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. If you want to defend Farrakhan's racism, you're wasting your time |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. farrakhan is a racist...how does he affect YOU? |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Congrats. That's the weakest argument ever made here. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. he has ZERO affect on you |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. If you can't understand the impact he has on all of us ... |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. What impact does he have on all of us? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. i want to understand it...so explain it, if you can |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. Racism only matters if it directly effects you? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. yes...i would argue precisely that |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. It's hard to see why most people should care about racism at all, in that |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. they don't care about it for precisely that reason |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. I have noticed that some not effected by it don't care, and some care |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. You are distorting her point ... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. To the contrary - I asked if it should only matter if it directly effects |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. You are trying hard not to understand the rhetorical "you" |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. That, as best I can tell, IS the substance of her point. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:46 PM Response to Reply #95 |
103. Replace "I" with "someone" and you'll understand her point |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #103 |
118. Why would I change the language used by another poster? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:30 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. the NOI has been around for a long time now |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:54 PM Response to Reply #93 |
106. like the other poster |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:11 PM Response to Reply #93 |
112. It's the inability to discern |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #83 |
96. what's more important? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. I'm perfectly able to condemn all racism, from that which effects me most |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. so...does that mean you can't listen to a farrakahn speech? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:14 PM Response to Reply #100 |
114. I don't know why you'd ask me as if I ever suggested those things. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:18 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. as much as i admire byrd for some of his stances |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #98 |
108. If it stopped "effecting" you |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:56 PM Response to Reply #64 |
72. The Racism Effect-U-Meter |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. I would suggest all these examples feed into one another, and |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:08 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I think a Jew in Auschwitz or a slave in Alabama would disagree ,,, |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Why do you think I posted that they "are equivalent"? |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #80 |
117. If it doesn't affect you |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
121. I would also suggest |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. i asked a specific question |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #72 |
87. No. But it's still bad, and NOT same as merely silly or fallacious myths. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. So tell us exactly how the NOI 's belief system |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. Why do I have to show that it's morally equivalent to say it's wrong? |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:42 PM Response to Reply #94 |
102. My position on racism is the realistic position as a Black man in America |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #102 |
115. Wow! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #102 |
125. and there it is...straight, no chaser |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:59 PM Response to Reply #102 |
127. My position is based on your position as a Black man in america. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:35 PM Response to Reply #127 |
131. what's up the need for him to "condemn" farrakhan ? |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:39 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. Beautifully said!!!!!! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:52 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. that's what this is all about, isn't it? eom |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:57 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. at it's heart, yes |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:59 PM Response to Reply #134 |
135. that sock...i call it the fly on the pink elephant's ass |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. it's amazing that people can tell you what maslow's hierarchy is |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:17 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. denial is the superglue that hold is all together |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:30 PM Response to Reply #137 |
140. I call Farrakhan a "scratcher" |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 07:13 PM Response to Reply #131 |
141. If by "condemn" you mean validly criticize him, your post answers itself |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 03:03 AM Response to Reply #141 |
144. no one is trying to justify racism in this thread |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:24 PM Response to Reply #127 |
138. Your post displays |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 06:25 PM Response to Reply #102 |
139. Great post but |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 06:07 AM Response to Reply #102 |
153. Well said |
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Tim4319 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:00 PM Response to Reply #50 |
107. Not to mention, noiretblu, |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:10 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. and bush and the republican's party's agenda |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:17 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. How is that a weak argument? |
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Neil Lisst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Why don't we continue this when you guys grow up? |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. LMAO! |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:41 PM Response to Reply #59 |
122. Please, do take your ball |
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cantstandbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
67. Just had to recommend this. What an open, thoughful mind. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
73. The movie Malcolm X, |
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dretceterini (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. As far as I'm concerned |
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wildeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
104. Good point, Hamden. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 03:49 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. LOL! At least God didn't tell him to invade Iraq! nt |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
109. Didn't the NOI kill Malcom X? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:50 PM Response to Reply #109 |
124. Shhhhhhhhhh! n/t |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:57 PM Response to Reply #109 |
126. the same can be said of the republican party |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:17 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. White people killed JFK - white people don't have any respectability |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 07:41 PM Response to Reply #126 |
142. Not at all. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 03:20 AM Response to Reply #142 |
147. no evidence at all...right |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 05:47 AM Response to Reply #147 |
150. I have no problem |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 12:22 PM Response to Reply #150 |
160. Deleted message |
H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #160 |
162. Ha-ha-ha! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 02:15 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. thanks for the offer |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #163 |
164. Oh, I do. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #164 |
166. google is one of many internet search engines |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #166 |
169. Now don't get huffy! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. look...the post i responded to mentioned "involvement" |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 06:58 AM Response to Reply #171 |
177. Actually, you are not |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 04:10 PM Response to Reply #177 |
187. didn't the NOI kill malcom X...why do they have any respectability at all |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 03:10 AM Response to Reply #109 |
146. Yes, farrakhan is implicated in the murder of Malcolm X. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 03:25 AM Response to Reply #146 |
148. malcolm's life was a testatment to the power of redemption |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 10:00 AM Response to Reply #146 |
157. Why isn't he in jail then? (nt) |
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entanglement (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
113. Thank you for your excellent post |
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StellaBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
130. AMEN TO ALL OF THAT |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-16-05 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
143. I agree. Farrakan is a fkin whack job. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 03:50 AM Response to Original message |
149. This should be read by people on both sides of this debate. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
154. And how 'bout the Mormons? |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 10:01 AM Response to Reply #154 |
158. See post #156 (nt) |
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Inland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 03:52 PM Response to Reply #154 |
170. Beat you to it, see my post number 47 |
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rniel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
167. The flying spaghetti monster agrees |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 08:56 AM Response to Reply #167 |
183. Pastafarianism is excepted because ... |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
172. Maybe mad scientists *did* create white people |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 08:55 AM Response to Reply #172 |
182. That's just wrong, wrong, wrong! LOL |
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Fescue4u (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-17-05 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
173. "ritual act of cannablism," |
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AccessGranted (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
175. What do you really know about NOI or Minister Louis Farrakhan? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-18-05 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
180. This theory damn well better be taught in schools alongside ID |
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