Novak, "knows who it is—and it's not someone at the White House."

[populistdriven]

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1118313,00.html

Another character in the drama remains unnamed: the original source for columnist Robert Novak, who wrote the first piece naming Plame. Fitzgerald, says a lawyer who's involved in the case, "knows who it is—and it's not someone at the White House."

[tk2kewl]

1. bolton

[crispini]

3. Now wouldn't that be fun!

[HereSince1628]

9. Bolton certainly had access to the information.

You would expect Bolton working in the State Dept. on nonproliferation to be very familiar with the CIA intelligence unit working on the same topic.

He also has the personality to do such a thing.

[I Have A Dream]

17. I seem to recall that Bolton visited Miller while she was in jail.

Given this, what you're saying makes sense to me.

[crispini]

2. LOL!

Re: Fitz:

"If he played his cards any closer to the vest, they'd be in his underwear," says a lawyer who is a friend of the White House.

[DoYouEverWonder]

4. Judith Miller

that was why Judy never did get around to writing a story about. She was too busy doing Libby's dirty work, telling all her other reporter friends, so that they could write about it instead and she got to keep her nose clean.

[Scout1071]

33. I concur.

But Fitz still needs to find out how Judy got the info - hence the Libby and Rove investigation.

[cornermouse]

5. Novak's credibility is rather...low...shall we say?

[Evergreen Emerald]

16. I agree

I would not believe anything out of any of em.

[maddezmom]

6. crazy John Bolton

is my guess and has been for a while :D

[skids]

7. Hrm.

The article isn't by Robert Novak, but by Viveca.

The person who is stated to know "who it is—and it's not someone at the White House" isn't Novak, it's Fitzgerald. This according to some involved lawyer, which would mean a WH shill since noone in Fitz's camp is talking.

FWIW.

[H2O Man]

8. Interesting article!

It's interesting to consider who the reporters' source is? Which lawyer involved in the case is talking to reporters?

I am going to guess that it is Rove's lawyer(s). One reason why is the "clue" about Novak's sources not being from the White House. Of course, Novak was clear -- crystal clear, to borrow a phrase that seems to belong in discussions of this case -- that it was "two senior Administration officials."

As John Dean points out in "Worse THan Watergate" (page 170), "Usually, the term senior official refers to a vice president, cabinet officer, or top White House aide."

If this clue is accurate, it seems possible that we are looking at John Bolton.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. I think Cheney's offices are officially outside the Whitehouse

I think Cheney's offices (plural) are officially outside the Whitehouse, though he probably has a room in the WH itself.

[no_hypocrisy]

11. I hate it when people do the "You have three guesses" thing.

Just tell us, Bob.

[Perky]

12. Doug Fieith and the gange at OSP

they hate the CIA generall?

[lostnfound]

13. It bugs me when they say "someONE"..what, no conspiracy?

I was under the impression that 2 people had leaked to 6 reporters.

The PTB will want to keep it confined to one half of the White House or the other, won't they? Either Rove OR Libby but not both?

[H2O Man]

14. At least three,

though likely six in all, leaked this to various reporters. Some were, of course, trying to reinforce the initial leak to specific reporters. That is by definition a conspiracy.

[populistdriven]

15. yep, this is how Rove has ALWAYS operated - hit them from every direction

[cantstandbush]

18. Where is Richard Perle?

Just asking.

[Gyre]

19. Of course it's not Bob. Has to be those damned minions again

thinking and acting on their own. Just like at Abu Ghraib. Taking one for the team Bob?

[symbolman]

20. It's Bolton

except you can't believe a word NoFACTS says - he's changed his story more times than Bush Co has changed the reasons for going into Iraq since they INVADED them.

Bolton was running a Renegade Intelligence Unit right in the middle of the State Dept. Theilman (Powell's puppy, doesn't seem to be a bad guy, but you can never tell), was instructed by Powell to attend EVERY morning meeting with Bolton and his crew.. well, Bolton's crew contained one Fietz who met Theilman at the door one morning and told him to stay the hell out of the meetings.. he wasn't "invited" anymore, they wanted to keep it in the "Family" (at this point in my film I show the mugshots of ALL the PNAC'rs as being the "FAMILY")..

Bolton was demanding RAW Intel Data, something that had never been done in his position as the State Dept intel squad ALWAYS filtered raw data before it left the area to go elsewhere in the building, so as to not give the wrong info to unfriendlies in their midst..

Bolton got his way too, a pack of bullies - Powell should have kicked Bolton's ass OUT before he took him down - Bolton was writing SAVAGE speeches, especially one on Bio Warfare possibilities in Cuba (some lost their jobs over that one) so that he could give speeches to Heritage Foundation goons and such, but he was SHUT DOWN on a lot of speeches, basically because they were just LOONEY.

Of course Powell didn't kick Bolton's ass out and paid the price when he went before the UN, reportedly his own aid said Powell THREW the speech and intel into the air and said, "I'm not going in there and saying this, THIS IS BULLSHIT!" - but under the tender guidance of Tenet he caved, Tenet sat right behind him (probably with a sharpened toothbrush he kept rubbing on the floor just in case Powell came to his senses and Tenet would have had to pierce Powell's caratoid artery like a hockey player taking out a goalie.. if you watch the footage you'll also see Negroponte (CRIMINAL, Always has been, ALWAYS WILL BE) sitting behind Powell too in the UN..

If you are old enough to remember, Powell was the nice boy who controlled the cover up of Mai lai (spelling) back in Nam, so he's no Angel folks.. no credit to his race either, a lying sack of shit.

Now Fietz (who I couldn't find a photo of) was Bolton's Mole in the CIA - he was working both sides of the Intel scene, kept his CIA Portfolio while at it.

Total bully, there are some interesting testimonies in PDF form online if you google the guy, being interviewed as to the why and where of how he pulled crap on his fellow State dept Intel folks to get them FIRED.. slimy, but very stupid.. good reading..

I personally think that Fietz was leaking to Miller, to cover for Bolton who was the one feeding her the info for the NY Times.

Been thinking of writing a book about all this since I spent a year researching, and at 150 minutes my film doesn't cover everything you could with a good solid BOOK -- BUT, at this point there are probably 10 Pulitzer Prize winners, guys like Sidney Blumenthal who will get huge advances with agents, etc..

I'd at LEAST like to offer something other than Miller's PACK OF LIES she will write for over a million, so I could trash her publicly and tell people NOT to support a lying bitch who's never told the truth in her life..

She's apologising now to try to reinvent herself and gain a modicum of credibility (tho the NY Times will have no option but to send her away - and she/they will come up with some silly reasoning for her to leave, time with family, to write a book to get at the TRUTH of the matter, etc, etc..) - I propose that we get about 100 blogs together and write a petition and get as many people as we can to sign it saying that we WILL BOYCOTT the Publisher of Her BOOK and WHY..

Hell, why can't a site called TAKEBACKTHEMEDIA TELL THE TRUTH, eh?

If I get enough coming in from somewhere I'll kick her ass in a book :) take me about 6 months, maybe less, since I spent a year researching already..

What do you think?

How about "F*CK Miller, she's a GODDAM LIAR, Buy TBTM's Book INSTEAD!" for a Marketing Slogan?

Maybe her colon will sneak upward, sliding oh so stealthily during a dark and stormy night - until it wraps around her neck and strangles her, it being the last vestige of Honesty left in her body...

:)

[SpiralHawk]

21. Poppy !!!!!

Once a Skull & Boner, always a Skull & Boner.

[jbonkowski]

22. Ari's not "in the White House" anymore

Maybe this guy is parsing words, or repeating Novak's parsed words. Maybe it's someone who has resigned already. Oooh! Maybe it's Karen Hughes?

[symbolman]

23. Right..

"It isn't anyone in the White House.."

Oh yeah, that's right - Bush went to CAMP DAVID for the Weekend, and Rove when home with a headache you wouldn't believe.. :)

[leesa]

24. But the White House knows who it is and that's one of the points.

They know and they are allowing it...TREASON.

[Straight Shooter]

25. Not someone "at" the White House.

Does this lawyer mean not "at" the White House now? Is this person ever "at" the White House? Was this person "at" the White House in the past? Will this person be "at" the White House in the future?

I guess it depends on what the meaning of "at" is.

[smirkymonkey]

26. Well, if Robert Novak says so, it MUST be true!

I wonder how much they're paying him?

[targetpractice]

28. Viveca Novak is the author.

Not Robert Novak. I don't know who she is.

[goodboy]

27. BOLTON! See Thread Here----->>>>>>>>>>

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5074048


It`s just a hunch, but remember those documents the Democrats demanded from the Bushies during Bolton`s Senate Rejection..er..um Confirmation Hearings:

The White House arrogantly REFUSED to hand them over! Must be something REALLY DAMNING in them don`t you think!!!!!

Perhaps something like this...

Made unusual number of requests for transcripts of secret conversations involving high-level U.S. officials:

As Under Secretary of State, BOLTON REQUESTED AND RECEIVED THE IDENTITIES OF 10 DIFFERENT US OFFICIALS WHOSE CONVERSATIONS HE READ IN TOP-SECRET NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY INTERCEPTS.
While it is not unheard of for U.S. officials to make these kinds of requests, ten “is unusually high for one person,” according to an intelligence official. Bolton did not acknowledge a request "for the names of the U.S. officials whose identities he sought, leaving some to believe that he was spying on his superiors and colleagues to advance his own agenda.

HMMMMM...

BUT WAIT THERE`S MORE:

Allegedly promoted faulty intelligence on Iraqi nuclear program: According to Congressman Henry Waxman, Bolton was the key proponent of the now-discredited claim that Iraq was seeking to acquire uranium from Niger to build nuclear weapons. In a letter to Representative Christopher Shays, Waxman writes that Bolton saw to it that the claim was included in President Bush’s 2002 State of the Union Address and then covered his tracks by using State Department secrecy rules.

SAY IT AIN`T SO!!!! SO WHEN WILSON CAME BACK FROM NIGER, AND EXPOSED BOLTON`S AND THE BUSH ADMIN`S LIES, AND EMBARASSED THE SHIT OUT OF HIM...BOLTON, BEING THE ARROGANT PRICK THAT HE IS, DECIDED HE WAS GONNA SHOW THAT WILSON GUY THAT YOU DO. NOT. FUCK. WITH JOHN BOLTON.

There`s your motive.

He`s also the only one of these criminals..no these TRAITORS who has NOT been interviewed or given testimony in front of the Grand Jury, which usually means you are one of the targets...if not THE target.

Yup. It`s Bolton. I`ll bet a $50.00 donation to DU that Bolton is the original leaker.

[populistdriven]

31. did anyone take you up on your bet?

[goodboy]

32. Nope...want to match my donation? >>>

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5074048

[Marr]

29. Bob Novak is the only person I actually trust less than Ahmed Chalabi.

Sorry, Bob. But your word is sort of meaningless.

[ewagner]

30. So who

wrote the memo that was passed around on AF 1????

[Carla in Ca]

34. I think Bolton is the best guess

But I want to throw in another name. There are so many rats to choose from! I say George Tenet. Isn't he about to do a 'tell-all'? Isn't he, shall we say, at odds with the WH?

[lovuian]

35. Maybe its George Bush Sr!!! or the Ghost of Christmas past!!!

or Bolton that would make sense!!!