Wonder how many in Ohio would love to have their vote back now.

[Justice Is Comin]

They held the election right in their hands and blew it. Now three more years of this American Furhrer, without impeachment.

I find it hard to have sympathy for them. What was it they had already lost--200,000 jobs?

We could have given them a president not a resident. That has to have many of them spitting nails.

[Cleita]

1. To be fair, many in Ohio who would have cast a vote for

Kerry/Edwards were blocked from voting with unfair tactics, like lack of voting machines in Democratic precincts, not to mention the Diebold vote that went for Bush/Cheney when the exit polls clearly pointed to votes for Kerry/Edwards instead.

Don't blame the people of Ohio for the corruption and actions of their Secretary of State.

[LaurenG]

2. I think Ohio went for Kerry

I think the vote counters went for *Bush. I will tell you though that many republicans that I know are sick of him (*) and are sorry now.

[Epiphany4z]

5. I am from ohio my county went to kerry by decent percentage.

We tried we registered people even gave rides to the polls for those who didn't have transport. We really tried.

I have to tell you my phone number must have belonged to Republican before I was blasted with computer calls from them up till the minute the polls closed. The basic message.... "hurry vote don't let them take our guns and make our kids gay!"

[VolcanoJen]

24. Welcome to DU, Epiphany4z!

:toast:

[jillan]

27. That is the difference -

They used scare tactics.
I just asked the people I called if they were going to vote, and if they had any questions where to go vote.

Welcome to DU Epiphany!

[newyawker99]

29. Hi Epiphany4z!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[helderheid]

19. Ohio went for Kerry. Triad went for Bush. n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

30. Good

Now get them to vote next year and for democrats.

[mazzarro]

3. More than Ohio is affected

The sad reality is that mishap in Ohio affects all the people in the country not only the people of Ohio.

[pauldp]

4. If you read the Conyers Report

You'll see how the election was stolen in Ohio and consequently Nationwide.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/010605Y.shtml

[sasquatch]

6. Blackwell would still try and rig it

[Justice Is Comin]

7. Point is

voters there in all the precincts should have STORMED the polls in ectasy to vote this prick out. It was one of the most ravaged by the policies they had already seen the results of for 4 years.

I know how hard so many worked to not let it happen. It shouldn't have even been close enough to allow the compromised voting machines and dirty tricks to make a difference.

I think that is evidenced now by the 72% of America that thinks the country is headed in the wrong direction. Scads of them are in Ohio. And I believe cursing their vote.

[mongo]

8. I think there were more people working hard for Kerry

than ever before. We did get many people to come out to the polls who had never voted before.

If it weren't for the fraud and dirty tricks that were played at the polls on election day, Kerry would have won. Look at the exit polls.

Don't blame Ohio as a whole. Yeah there are plenty of brain dead repukes here, but dems as a whole worked harder than ever before.

It really sucked to be a dem in Ohio on Nov 3rd, believe me.

[Justice Is Comin]

16. Yah I know,

I salute you for your backbreaking work. Never such a surpise since the OJ verdict. But there had to be a jury to let it happen.

You wouldn't even have to work if the election was being held this November.

[electropop]

12. They did storm the precincts.

Did you not see the 12-hour lines in the freezing rain? How much more determined can a voter be? They tried to defeat the tricksters, but did not hold the power cards.

[LisaL]

14. Exactly. I waited a long time, in the rain, to vote.

And the exit polls showed Kerry should have won.

[MH1]

22. Too bad repukes assigned the voting machines to

the precincts and MADE SURE the lines were long in Dem precincts.

This is one problem we need to lick that has nothing to do with Dieblod or tin-foil (not that I think Diebold theories are necessarily tin-foilish).

[seabeyond]

9. i can hardly point finger at citizen standing in line 10 hours, in freezin

rain. ohio went to kerry

[Halliburton]

10. it's personal responsibility

those who voted for him should be enjoying their gas prices.

[Lady President]

11. Oh good, another Ohio bashing thread

Ohio bashing threads never get old. :eyes:

Unless you gave every free minute of your time in 2003-2004, and every extra penny in your pocket to help the Ohio election, then I don't want to hear it.

Did you even catch the news election day? Because if you did, you might have noticed that people were standing in lines for hours in heavily Democratic districts. We will never know how many people were disenfranchised.

I will never understand the lack of compassion people like you exhibit.

[sasquatch]

15. I don't think it's an Ohio bashing thread

I think the heavy Republican districts would even vote Bush out now.

[Lady President]

18. No they wouldn't

When someone says that they don't have sympathy for people who lost their job just because they live in Ohio, then that's bashing. And, it's been happening since the election. I know how hard we worked in Ohio and there is no need to keep rubbing salt in the wound.

Heavily Republican districts would still go for Bush. Rod Parsley still finds people to come to his rally. People still call CSPAN saying Dems. want to kill babies. People still think that voting for a ban on gay marriage will protect their kids from "turning" gay.

Maybe more people in competitive districts would vote for Kerry today. But, that would just mean that Damschroeder would make sure even fewer voting machines would make it those precincts, so lines would be even longer, and more votes would be "lost"

[Blue for Ohio]

31. Lady President...

I respectfully disagree that this thread was meant to bash Ohio. I think "Justice" just didn't totally understand what happened here last November (alas, most people don't).

But everything else you said, I agree 100%. I fear that the repub districts would still vote for Bush if they had the chance today. I live in a VERY republican county and have some neighbors down the street who *STILL* have a large wooden sign on their front porch that says 'support Bush/Cheney and our troops' - I agree with supporting our troops, but I wonder how many investigations/indictments/lies it will take before they remove the 'Bush/Cheney' part from their sign. :eyes:

Like you, I worked hard on the Kerry/Edwards campaign in my district... but I don't feel this thread is rubbing salt in the wound. It's getting us to talk about the problems, and that's a good thing. I sure do wish that the word would spread throughout the COUNTRY that it WASN'T the fault of Ohio voters! IT WAS KENNETH BLACKWELL, et al!

I also wish that John Conyers' report, "What Went Wrong in Ohio" (here's a summary) would spread throughout the mainstream media far and wide and would convince people (inside AND outside of Ohio) to write letters to their newspapers about the report. OHIOANS WERE DISENFRANCHISED! The whole country suffered, so why isn't the whole country more vocal about that? Additionally, it seems like the Ohio Democratic leadership could use some help from the national level, because it looks like Blackwell is still the Secretary of State (and will preside over this coming election, too). :grr:

Everyone who wonders what went wrong in Ohio, really and truly should look at John Conyers' report (or at least the summary of it), because you're also right, Lady President, that if a greater number of people in Ohio wanted to vote for Kerry today... Blackwell and his minions would make sure even MORE disenfranchising shenanigans would be in place for the election.

Blue

[cmd]

35. Thank you, Blue

I agree with you and welcome you to DU.

[Ksec]

13. Im ashamed of this state

I cant believe theres so many stupids voting for their own demise.

Southern Ohio is much like the deep south. They vote along the same lines, one issue voters who vote GOP for their anti choice stand.

Those types would probably still vote for smirk as sad as that is/

[sasquatch]

17. I don't think so anymore

Ever since the Katrina debocle I think even they would vote him out.

[Justice Is Comin]

21. My sincerest apologies

to anyone who thought my purpose was to at all devalue all the monumental efforts that went into making Ohio blue. By NO means.

My intent was to slam the republicans who are now having to face the music of their own vote. They will be thinking of it every time they go to their thermostats.

[cmd]

23. There was nothing wrong with your post, Justice

I'm sure many Bush voters are sorry fellows right now. With all the news about out corrupt state government and the lies that are being uncovered about Bush and his gang, there are lots of sorry Buckeyes.

Welcome to DU -- and keep posting! I'll be watching for you. cmd

[MH1]

26. Ditto what cmd said.

Oh, and welcome to DU!

:hi:

[mod mom]

25. I went to grad school in Cinci and you are correct, So OH is southern

not midwestern like the rest of the state.

That said, KERRY WON OHIO! Someday this will come out. Hopefully after the coming indictments!

[ultraist]

33. Not midwestern like Kansas, Iowa, Ne, Ok, ?

The RED midwest zone is just as bad as the South Red zone. In fact, it's actually redder in most Midwesterner states than
Southern states:

[AndreaCG]

20. I'm sure mos of the blacks who waited on line for hours to vote would have

liked theeir vote to count!

[ohtransplant]

28. Help Ohioans to reform our election process.

See this link for our Nov ballot initiatives.

www.reformohionow.org

Contributions are needed.

[greygandalf]

32. the high population areas went kerry

cleveland, cinci, columbus

The people who lives in the boonies probably are not as effected. Also they probably would still vote on "morals".

[pro_blue_guy]

37. Except.......

Two counties off the top of my head that I can think of went to Kerry (and these counties are nowhere near metropolitan areas)


Athens County (the heart of southeastern Ohio's Appalachia region)

Erie County (50 miles from Cleveland, 50 miles from Toledo) I live here!

[Cathyclysmic]

34. My Aunt at WP-AFB and a Friend in Marysville would

nice of them to finally pick up the clue phone :eyes:

[pro_blue_guy]

36. Um.....

Why blame Ohio?

How about Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Missouri, Alaska, Nevada, Virginia, Texas, Colorado, North Dakota, South Carolina, etc. etc. etc.



And please don't say that you're glad we lost 200,000 jobs.....people's lives are on the line here. I'm not one for nasty replies, but, I hope you lose your job!