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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 05:32 PM
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Fundies want Congress to curb ACLU
Activist Claims ACLU Actions Harms Citizens, Wants Litigious Group Curbed

By Allie Martin and Jenni Parker
October 13, 2005

(AgapePress) - The president of a Christian activist organization is among a growing number of citizens who are saying it is about time for the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) to stop trying to put criminals' rights above the rights of American citizens.

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Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff has commended Mayor Michael Bloomberg and other New York officials, saying he respects their judgment and considers their precautious "absolutely appropriate." But just this past summer, the city officials may well have felt chastised for taking such careful counter-terrorism measures when the ACLU sued the City of New York, arguing that it had violated the rights of subway passengers by doing random searches.

Don Swarthout, president of the Kentucky-based group Christians Reviving America's ValuEs (CRAVE), believes the ACLU is not looking out for the civil rights of average U.S. citizens when it does things like bringing this suit against New York, or attacking expressions of religious faith in the public square, or trying to squelch acknowledgement of America's Judeo-Christian religious heritage.

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Citizens Call on Congress to Reign In ACLU
Apparently, Swarthout says, members of the so-called civil liberties organization "really are not so concerned about the rights of the law-abiding citizens." He has drafted a letter to Congress asking U.S. lawmakers to investigate the ACLU's policies and true intentions, and to look into the group's "widespread use of frivolous lawsuits" following its legal action against New York City. Meanwhile, a petition drive spearheaded by the Center for Reclaiming America is mobilizing more than 100,000 Americans to urge Congress to pass a bill to curb the ACLU by denying plaintiff attorneys the right to collect attorney fees in lawsuits that target religion in the public square. The petition in support of legislation by Representative John Hostettler (Rep.-Indiana) calls for "a stand against the ACLU's radical agenda, which undermines our nation's moral and religious heritage."


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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 05:35 PM
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Animals need PETA. People need the ACLU.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 05:35 PM
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1. Of course they do. The right wants no Government left IMHO that is their
ultimate goal. Theocracy,of the church and by the church.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 05:43 PM
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2. Center for Reclaiming America mobilizing 100,000 Americans? ACLU can get
several millions.

To quote *, "bring it on".

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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 05:47 PM
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3. They Hate Our Freedom
Why Do They Hate America? (tm)
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 05:49 PM
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4. Everyone should just start quoting Jefferson at them.
That's the only response anyone should ever give them. Jefferson quotes. "Judeo-Christian heritage? Not according to Tommy Jeff. He despised people like you."
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 05:51 PM
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5. They want Congress to intimidate the ACLU by investigating it...
... then pass a law to reign it in.

Jesus motherfucker.

Could these people be any more like the taliban, or the mullahs in Iran?

I'm generally not afraid of getting blown up by a moslem terrorist. But I'm scared to death that my country is being destroyed from the inside by these un-American, religion-crazed fundamentalist christian clerics.

It's a hideous, evil disease that is eating away at our society and eroding our system of government. All in the name of some imagined religion.

Sick.

:puke:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 05:52 PM
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6. People should only be free enough to do what
WE say the Bible tells them they can do...and no more.
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 05:58 PM
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7. I'l use this quote again....
"The clergy believe that any portion of power confided to me will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against any form of tyranny known to the mind of man."

- Thomas Jefferson
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 06:52 PM
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8. Do we get to petition Congress ...
to limit the activities of fundamentalist Christian groups because their actions harm citizens, undermine our Constitution and threaten our democracy? :eyes:

This sentence shines the light on their real agenda:
"Reclaiming America is mobilizing more than 100,000 Americans to urge Congress to pass a bill to curb the ACLU by denying plaintiff attorneys the right to collect attorney fees in lawsuits that target religion in the public square."

This has nothing to do with fighting terrorism or denying the rights of criminals - this is about preventing ANYONE from questioning their desire to shove their religion down the throats of all Americans.

There will also be an additional side effect: if attorneys are prevented from collecting fees for one type of lawsuit, it will only be a matter of time before some other group demands that attorneys not be allowed to collect fees for other types of lawsuits.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 06:59 PM
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9. And I want Congress to curb the fundies.
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