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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:27 PM
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The Raw Story: Report: Cheney opposed to Miers: Developing...
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:29 PM
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1. Claybrook Opposed to Cheney
Fully developed.

Let them fight each other until they discard Miers, then dimwit can come up with some other ridiculous candidate.
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cloud_chaser1 Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:31 PM
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2. I'm opposed to Cheney
and * and the rest of them.

:grouphug:
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:47 PM
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13. Meirs opposed to Claybrook. Who's on first? What's his name's on second.
And I don't know's on third.
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:32 PM
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3. She doesn't look like she will make it.
That "developing" stuff is pretty entertaining, haha.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:34 PM
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6. LOL! What you said. n/t
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:32 PM
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4. Yay for DEVELOPING!
Post it when it's done
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:32 PM
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5. Does this add to the notion that..
.. Miers is just a decoy, that when she's rejected, * can then appoint a much more extreme candidate?

Sue
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:37 PM
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8. It does in my eyes. n/t
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:35 PM
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7. Why was he shilling for her on Limbaugh and other shows recently?
I have yet to see what this will be about.

Looking back, he went told Hannity that she was a Scalia Conservative as well.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:03 PM
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21. This whole thing is very strange
I don't get it at all. Maybe something is going on behind the scenes to make him not want her now. :crazy:
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:41 PM
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9. On how she was chosen, check this speculation out...
(October 13, 2005 -- 11:09 AM EDT // link // print)

TPM Reader TM checks in ...

What do you think of some of the speculation out there that Harry Reid suggested Harriet Miers as an effort to sabotage Bush politically? It makes a lot of sense to me - she's not very formidable, yet Reid knew Bush would like the idea of picking someone who's such a close ally/bootlicker (you pick). It's kinda like this: Say you have a colleague at work you can't stand and you know has terrible judgment. This colleague just bought a bunny suit and keeps telling everyone how he can't WAIT to find some occasion to wear it. So you sidle up to him and encourage him to wear it to the company's annual black-tie banquet. "Hey, buddy, I just want you to be happy. Would I steer you wrong?"


What I think is that these sorts of triple bankshots seldom turn out to be true, and seldom work when they are true. But seldom isn't never. And it's fun to speculate.


http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_10_09.php#006743

Of course it is just speculation, but an interesting perspective nevertheless.
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:42 PM
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10. Not again
Like most of Raw Stories "developing" it will vanish without a trace.

The Drudge Report of the left and just as unreliable.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:43 PM
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11. Maybe with all the neocons opposing each other they will self destruct!
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:43 PM
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12. Article now posted
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 12:51 PM by RSchewe
Veteran conservative columnist and pundit John Fund asserts in the Wall Street Journal today that the offices of Vice President Dick Cheney and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales tried to block the nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, RAW STORY has learned.

"A last minute effort was made to block the choice of Ms. Miers, including the offices of Vice President Cheney and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales," Fund claims. "It fell on deaf ears."

"Indeed, even internal advice was shunned," Fund adds. White House Chief of Staff Andrew "Card is said to have shouted down objections to Ms. Miers at staff meetings. A senator attending the White House swearing-in of John Roberts four days before the Miers selection was announced was struck by how depressed White House staffers were during discussion of the next nominee. He says their reaction to him could have been characterized as, "Oh brother, you have no idea what's coming."

more...


http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Report_Cheneys_office_opposed_Miers_nomination_1013.html

Refers to this opinion piece from John Fund in the Opinion Journal:

(snip)

Mr. Lubet, the Northwestern professor, says "all the built-in incentives" of the vetting process were perverse. "In business you make an effort to have disinterested directors who know all the material facts to resolve conflicts of interest," he told me. "In the Miers pick, the White House was sowing its own minefield."

"It was a disaster waiting to happen," says G. Calvin Mackenzie, a professor at Colby College in Maine who specializes in presidential appointments. "You are evaluating a close friend of the president, under pressure to keep it secret even internally and thus limiting the outside advice you get."

Indeed, even internal advice was shunned. Mr. Card is said to have shouted down objections to Ms. Miers at staff meetings. A senator attending the White House swearing-in of John Roberts four days before the Miers selection was announced was struck by how depressed White House staffers were during discussion of the next nominee. He says their reaction to him could have been characterized as, "Oh brother, you have no idea what's coming."

A last minute effort was made to block the choice of Ms. Miers, including the offices of Vice President Cheney and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. It fell on deaf ears. First Lady Laura Bush, who went to Southern Methodist University at the same time as Ms. Miers, weighed in. On Sunday night, the president dined with Ms. Miers and the first lady to celebrate the nomination of what one presidential aide inartfully praised to me as that of "a female trailblazer who will walk in the footsteps of President Bush."

more...


http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:55 PM
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15. "Rawstory has learned"
Wow...I wonder how they learned...

"Veteran conservative columnist and pundit John Fund asserts in the Wall Street Journal today..."

Oh...they read the Wall Street Journal today! :eyes:

Is this truly reporting? Or is it just reading a newspaper?
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:56 PM
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16. haha, I was thinking the same thing...
That is why I posted in in this Discussion Forum and not LBN.
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:03 PM
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20. hehe, should be "The Raw Story has read..." and instead of "Developing.."
it should be "Reading..." or "still quoting article Raw Story has found..."

ok, I'll stop beating up on The Raw Story, just having fun, they do some good work.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:06 PM
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22. Very interesting
"Oh brother, you have no idea what's coming."

I wonder what this is about? What does that mean?
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cloud_chaser1 Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:54 PM
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14. The more I think about it
I am coming to the conclusion that Mier has a major crush on Bush and has had it since back in Texas Days. Could even be deeper than a crush but I wont bet on that.
It could be that the nomination to the high scourt is just an effort by Dubya to get her off his back. "Promise to leave me along and I'll give you a big job."
Could be!!!!!!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:58 PM
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17. she could ruin him in an eyewink
She knows too much. So he buys her off to keep her silent.

It could be.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:07 PM
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24. Could be
But couldn't the committee get papers from her that could be damaging as well since she's on the White House counsel and she works for the people?
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RSchewe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 12:59 PM
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18. Look at how the right wing blogs attack Fund in the end of the Raw Story
piece. It is interesting to see the events that are taking place as a result of this nomination and the exchanges within the right. I am curious to see how this all plays out when she testifies.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:01 PM
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19. Very interesting
I wonder why. :popcorn: I've got my popcorn ready!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 01:06 PM
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23. I will stand by my opinion that Miers' nomination was a pissing contest
between Rove/bush and Cheney & the rest of the junta.
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