Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Does the shitstorm * is going through....

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:34 AM
Original message
Does the shitstorm * is going through....
make his re-election worth it? That's a question to each poster individually. Obviously as a country, having to live through everything is most definitely NOT worth it.

But being an optimist and believing that our country will SOMEHOW survive this morans dogmatic crap-genda...is seeing his whole murder of crony crows just losing longterm popularity more and more kind of (if ever so slightly)....worth it?

It's gotten pretty bad. And with all the bad news hanging out on the horizon and inching ever closer with each passing day, it can ONLY get worse (is there any friggin way in hell it could get better for the chimp?).

Personally, I'm kind of glad that Kerry didn't have to clean up this mess. I'm kind of glad that the Dems aren't in control right now. We would never hear the end of it. Of course, if we were in control, the country wouldn't be so f'd up.

If Kerry had won, ALL OF THIS WOULD'VE BEEN HIS FAULT. At least according to the MSM and shrieking fweepers.



So what do you think? Is watching them absolutely demolish their image for a generation worth having to sit through 4 years of the chimp king?

Signed,

An Optimist

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:39 AM
Response to Original message
1. if Kerry had won.........
.......he wouldn't have this mess to clean up!

Certainly the situation in Iraq is a difficult one and he would have had to deal with that. But I'm sure he would have been more effective dealing with Katrina. He would also have made much better choices for the Supreme Court too!

Also, in a Kerry cabinet, we certainly would not have had this level of corruption in the administration either!!

When the Republicans gained a majority in Congress, I knew it was just a matter of time before they self destructed.........it looks like that time is here!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mestup Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:40 AM
Response to Original message
2. Ugh. I say no. It's like Gore said recently in an interview in Sweden.
When asked how the United States would have been different if he had become president, though, he had harsh criticism for Bush's policies.

"We would not have invaded a country that didn't attack us," he said, referring to Iraq. "We would not have taken money from the working families and given it to the most wealthy families."

"We would not be trying to control and intimidate the news media. We would not be routinely torturing people," Gore said. "We would be a different country."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051012/ap_on_el_pr/sweden_gore;_ylt=AmHHaL49x4XxNl.tdHZCh6qs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3OXIzMDMzBHNlYwM3MDM-
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:48 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. But that's if GORE was elected.
Hell...I'd take that in a heartbeat.

But I'm talking AFTER the first four years. After shit was already fucked up. It was just going to take a cycle before the fit really hit the shan.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mestup Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:51 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. Oh duh. You're right. Yes, I'm glad no Dem had to clean up *'s mess.
Only four years in and the place was a shitstorm.

I think it will be easier to houseclean if 99% of BushCoInc is indicted and pending trial.

:-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 03:29 AM
Response to Reply #5
11. Gore WAS Elected. WE GOT ROBBED!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 03:34 AM
Response to Reply #11
13. And do you find it as hypocritical as I do...
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 03:34 AM by Buddyblazon
after that whole debacle...that they constantly scream about "activist judges" and "judges that legislate from the bench"?

I mean...W..T..F!

These hypocrites have shit for brains!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Momof1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:43 AM
Response to Original message
3. Running around & telling all Repub buds "I WAS RIGHT!"
Yes, in a very sick twisted way, it is worth it. BUT if Wes Clark was now the President, it wouldn't be this f'd up either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:45 AM
Response to Original message
4. It would only be worth it...
if we all lived through it. Oh, that's right - we won't all live throught it, will we. Many of us already haven't.

In other words, nothing would make it worth it. There may be some saving grace, or silver lining or whatever, but worth it? NOT.

And how tough do you think it would have been for Kerry to "clean it up"? Just stop the killing, roll back the greed-monster tax cuts, and start telling the truth. He could have done that, and no Republican ever will. Sure, I over-simplify, but being president is HARD WORK! The sooner a Democrat is in the White House, the sooner we all can breathe again. Literally.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 02:55 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. Yes...I agree.
I don't mean to downplay the fact that many innocent people have paid the ultimate price.

I think Kerry could've stopped the killing almost immediately. But the blow to our overall economic outlook. I don't think that Kerry could've stopped the impending downside. It probably wouldn't have been as bad, but * had already made our bed.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 03:09 AM
Response to Original message
8. "Be careful what you wish for"
I've thought of this quote over the last 5 years. I've wondered if there would come a day when Bushie would regret ever stepping foot in the white house. I've wondered if bitch Barbara Bush would live to regret aiding her son in his dreams.

one can only hope.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 03:20 AM
Response to Original message
9. No. it just makes being stuck bearable. it could neuter his party
for the next 30-60 years. that is all for the good.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 03:30 AM
Response to Reply #9
12. Uh...that would be a good portion of our lives...if not the remainder.
That's not worth it?

The Dems could NEVER do the amount of damage that these fucktards have done to themselves.

Wait...new slogan.

"Republicans...we're our own worst enemy."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 03:27 AM
Response to Original message
10. To see not only a douchebag....
but an entire family...wait...generations of an entire family of douchebags...finally have their name affiliated with such unbelievable fuck ups. It's at least a bit of consolation.

This is going to ruin their name. Maybe you think I'm not being realistic. But the remainder of this term of sliding approval and snafu after snafu...name a Bush that will ever get elected to anything...anywhere.

*note-that is assuming that the voting machines are smashed to a million pieces before another one of them has a chance to play.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 03:52 AM
Response to Original message
14. It ain't over.
I think it's premature to celebrate. The neocons in this county haven't realized yet that they're "toast"...maybe they're onto something.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 04:42 AM
Response to Reply #14
15. The plus-size soprano hasn't had her aria yet...
We are a long way from seeing the end of this fiasco. After all we've been through in the past 5 years I try not to get my hopes up too high at any one Bush snafu, but the fact that his numbers are in free-fall certainly brings a smile to my face.

As for fantasies of a Kerry presidency instead of a Bush second term, I have my doubts about how much he would have been able to un-do in this short amount of time. Kerry did not commit himself to immediate withdrawal from Iraq, for one thing. Kerry would have inherited a badly-damaged FEMA, for another, though I'm sure he would have moved far faster to respond to the drowning of New Orleans.

Most of all, though, the Bush cabal has been busy 24/7 dismantling core structures and programs of the federal government. They have been very, very focused on their agenda, and Bush has signed into law a record number of Executive Orders, which never go through the Congress. It would take an equally-determined and focused Democratic administration to even begin to repair the damage; they would have to have staff dedicated to ferreting out and evaluating every change Bush made, every function "privatized."

My own fantasy, my hope, is that from time to time in the years since 2000, there are just a few Supreme Court justices who wake at 2:00 a.m. in a cold sweat over what they did.

Hekate
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 04:55 AM
Response to Original message
16. Not to me.
Gore won and if he had been allowed to take his elected seat in Govt, none of this crappola of the last five years would have happened. Never mind Kerry, Gore actually won the election of 2000, and we would be fine now under his Presidency. And on top of that, we would have had the Senate these past three + years, or so I believe.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-13-05 06:14 AM
Response to Original message
17. Bush WAS NOT elected-2000-appointed by his cronies/2004 stole the election
Edited on Thu Oct-13-05 06:15 AM by fed-up

Please do not keep repeating the lies of the mass media.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 05:48 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC