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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:45 AM
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Hey. Davis is going to probably pick up 200K in Alameda, and in LA
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 12:47 AM by AP
there are still 1.5 mil to 2 mil votes that need to be counted.

He's only behind by about 350K.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:46 AM
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1. I think it may be close--it's not over yet. (nt)
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zubeneshamali Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:48 AM
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4. You mean Davis may win?
Thanks for the news. I could just hug you. :pals:

Everything's going to be alright!
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:51 AM
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9. I don't know if he's going to win, but when Alameda comes in, it's going
to be down to 150K, and I can't believe that the remaining 95% of the precincts are going to go 51% Yes on the recall (which is how the first 5% of the precincts went), and that's going to be at least 1.5 mil votes, so if it goes 60% No or more in LA (which isn't a stretch), that's a win for the No vote.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:53 AM
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15. Incidentally, Davis got 400K more votes than the Republican in LA Cty
on turnout of 1.5 mil in 2002. That's only 55%, but we're only talking about getting a no vote here.

Cruz got 58% of the vote in 2002.
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toska Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:22 AM
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31. 56% Alameda in
64455 yes
130,345 no

Not enough, need LA to swing more to the no side.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:46 AM
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2. Can he 'take back' the concession?
I hope he does.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:47 AM
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3. 2 million absentee ballots to be counted also
:-)
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:50 AM
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7. Aren't Oakland, Emeryville
and Berkeley in Alameda county?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:51 AM
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8. Yes n/t
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:56 AM
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17. Yes. 770K registered voters in Alamada. 380K will probably vote.
And No will probably win it by at least 200K, and probably more.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:52 AM
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11. I heard it again
where is this number coming from.

2 million absentee sounds like a bunch of democratic activitists who want to make sure they didn't cast on an electronic voting machine.

I mean, 2 MILLION!?! really?

How can they be calling this with such a great unknown factor?
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:55 AM
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16. that's the number the local news was saying this morning
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 12:55 AM by proud patriot
and that it would take a few days to count them .

2 million california absentee ballots
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:48 AM
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5. Please count my vote.
The Diebold machine I voted on must be
taking longer than expected to fix.

What the hell is going on with the Alameda vote!!!
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:49 AM
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6. disenfranchized voters!
People were trying to vote - polls were closed - they were told to go elsewhere - nothing there ...

... machines broken

... names not on rosters

same story as Florida all over again :grr: :grr: :grr:
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DerBeppo Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:57 AM
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few things...
if you voted in orange county they will not be reporting until tomorrow morning. it's a precaution because of the new, untested voting machines.

as for Davis making up ground, probably not. The north is where most of the really strong support was focused and most of that has come in already (san fran, etc.). So Cal was where a large chunk of the pro-recall support was rooted.

It's time to take a step back and to let go of the straws. There won't be another successful recall so the next chance for the state to vote in a new governor will be in 2006.
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nbsmom Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:59 AM
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24. L.A. isn't in.
Or are you looking at some magic readout of L.A. precincts?

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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 05:51 PM
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45. The "missing names" on the rosters was a biggie
We had people calling in all day saying they registered to vote and that their name was not on the roster AND the pecinct workers were not letting them vote. We told all of them that the precinct workers were not authorized to determine who was or was not an eligible voter and INSIST they be given a provisional ballot. I wonder how many people got discouraged and just gave up?

Also, a report from Kern County, there were no voting booths. All votes were out in the open, i.e., your neighbor could see who you were voting for and vice versa.

One last thing. The media was calling the election "over" by 6:00 pm (with the echo chamber here on DU dutifully chiming in) with 2 hours to go before the polls closed.

Just wait until election day 2004. The DU doom and gloomers will all be calling the eleciton by noon, California time for Bush. Can't you just wait? :mad:
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Il_Coniglietto Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:51 AM
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10. A bit less than 5% reporting in LA
We've got a loooong way to go, folks.
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ermoore Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:53 AM
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12. The war's over man.
Wormer dropped the big one.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:53 AM
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14. Over?
did you say over? Was it over when Gore won florida? Hell no!
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 05:38 PM
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40. you don't believe in counting all the votes?
Do you know why this web site started?
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CoffeePlease1947 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:53 AM
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13. I think the RECALL will pass, but not by that much I would say
it is going to be closer than 55-45. Probably 53-47 or 48-52.

Mike
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:57 AM
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18. Of course it's going to be close - to prevent a recount.....
n/t

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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:57 AM
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21. And Arnold's % is going to slip. It's down to 48% now, and that's without
Alameda and the rest of LA.
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Sephirstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:59 AM
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23. Don't be so sure. :(
Orange County is nowhere near finished being counted.
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nbsmom Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:01 AM
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26. And Alameda County isn't on the Board yet!
OC is repub, but Alameda is Berkeley and Oakland.
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:16 AM
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29. Alameda still not on the board w. any reports, 2:06AM est.
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 01:17 AM by Lori Price CLG
-Lori
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VeniceBeat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:57 AM
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19. Can Davis Still Win Even If He Concedes?
Were the miracle to happen?
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:58 AM
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22. Yes. A concession isn't a binding contract. The votes still matter.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:08 AM
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28. That's great, I'm staying up for this one.
:)
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Sephirstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 12:57 AM
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20. :( I'm sorry to be so pessimistic...
Orange County :puke: has only counted 250,000 votes so far.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:01 AM
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25. That's only 450K votes left. So tha'll probably be net of 180K for yes
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:04 AM
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27. I admire your never-say-die attitude, but it's over.
In fact, it was over long before tonight.

Go to bed. This too, shall pass...
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:25 AM
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32. The only way Davis could win is if he got about 62% of LA Cty
He's up to 51% with about 74% of the precincts to report, so it's probably over.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:20 AM
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30. I don't think we'll know the results for awhile.
Some counties won't even be reporting in tonight. It's ridiculous.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:28 AM
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33. LA just turned from the dark side
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 01:29 AM by AntiCoup2k
Yes 301,174 49.4 No 308,358 50.6

21.2 % ( 379 of 1786 ) Los Angeles precincts reporting as of Oct 7, 2003 at 11:23 pm




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fizzana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:34 AM
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34. The margin in LA isn't going to enough to help.
It's over.
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toska Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 01:38 AM
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35. It's over
LA would have to swing dramatically to make it close. Starting to look now like it will be 55-45.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:00 AM
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36. Kicking a positive thread before sleeping.
Dunno how things'll pan out, but I hope those absentees make some ruckess.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 02:12 AM
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37. Alameda returns are coming in. 65% say no.
This is positive.
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 06:25 PM
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48. Has the media robbed us of yet another election?
If it turns out that the numbers say Arnold lost...will that change anything?
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HitmanLV Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 05:36 PM
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38. what's so hard to accept....
...about the fact that Davis and Bustamante were poor candidates, and lost?

DU looks downright freaky sometimes.
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 05:37 PM
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39. what's so hard to accept....
about the fact that some DUers don't agree with you?

Yeah, DU is freaky, but good freaky. :grouphug:
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HitmanLV Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 05:57 PM
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46. it's not a matter of opinion....
...that Davis lost. I have no problem accepting people not agreeing with me. That's fine.

Looking at election results and seeing stuff that isn't there, sorry, is denial, and it's not a good freaky.

Then again, that would be a matter of opinion! ;-)
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HitmanLV Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-03 07:09 PM
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49. Are you convinced yet, Eileen?
Or is this a matter of opinion, still?
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 05:40 PM
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41. First time poster, long time lurker?
"sometimes" suggests you've been here a while. 64 posts suggest you haven't.

Am I breaking the rules by asking what encouraged you to come out on election night an blow a lot of smoke up everyone's ass over this election?
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HitmanLV Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 06:00 PM
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47. 'sometimes' suggests that...
...there are times when things are civil and rational, and there are times when they aren't. What's ambiguous about that?

I am a short-time lurker and recent poster. I am not blowing smoke - I'm sharing an opinion, one that isn't shrill, over-the-top, or defeatist.

I hope such opinions are welcome.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 05:42 PM
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42. great news....thanks, AP
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 05:42 PM by noiretblu
this is the best news i've heard in the past 24 hours...fantastic. wouldn't it be GREAT if davis managed to pull this out?! :bounce:
:loveya: alameda county...that's why it's my home :bounce:
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 05:44 PM
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43. Sorry, this is from last night.
All the votes that can be counted were counted.

And many votes that can't be counted probably weren't.

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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-03 05:50 PM
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44. aww fuck....well, that was short-lived
Edited on Wed Oct-08-03 05:51 PM by noiretblu
*sigh* back to my depression...thanks for the momentary high. i'm on a news blackout, so i don't know what's going on. it's better that way...
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