What is your explanation for the sudden skewing of CNN polls?

[Must_B_Free]

That is what sent my feelers up...

From what I have seen it is mostly major media polls. I have seen other smaller polls that are still more or less 50/50ish.

To me it is as if the main poll skewer changed sides. This is why I think Rove is behind it because you can see the direct control over the Freeper mission the Whitehouse has.

I just have trouble believing that this Niger storm is nothing more than another "dropped floppy" or "cocaine allegation".

The way to control a problem is to be the one to create it. They were pissed that the Dems went along with the war. I am not going to be surprised when they somehow use this against everyone who doubted the president.

I ask you, what happens when the next manufactured crisis happens?

You think they are just going to let it all go and go down with the ship? Everyone knows that's not what they do...

Believe me. This tune being played this loud is a setup. It is a setup.

[dfong63]

1. my explanation: the freepers are disheartened

... by current events.

[w4rma]

2. That's my take, also: disenchanted freepers (n/t)

[caledesi]

15. I think they are stunned because they thought it was THEIR media.

That's one reason I trolled from time to time on freeperville. There is definitely a dearth of information and posters.

The "News" is hilarious...stuff you find on page 20 of a newspaper.

They can't handle the truth.

[Brian Sweat]

19. I agree,

but I would not count on it to last long.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Try to be possitive

The American people are waking up...

Does that help?

I believe it.

[ParanoidPat]

4. It could be that a number of DUers contacted CNN....

....and sent them links to the Freerepublic threads calling for various CNN poll questions to be 'freeped'. Many pointed out the posts that detailed their method of deleting cookies, and when necessary, restarting their modems for a new IP addresses in order to vote multiple times. Some of us suggested certain 'fixes' that might prevent multiple votes from the same computer. Shortly afterwards the 'freeping' died down.

I can only wonder. :evilgrin:

[hayu_lol]

5. We've discussed this cnn poll thing over at

dems.com as well. All of a sudden, we are seeing numbers that have been left alone. Only possibility may be some sort of Trojan Horse(are we suspicious yet?)to put us back to sleep.
It has been refreshing however to see numbers where we think they ought to be instead of where they have been.

[Must_B_Free]

7. you really think they didn't already know about it?

didn't the "fixing" of the polls coincide with the niger claims?

actually the first fair cnn poll was sunday-monday June 30th. that's when the strings were cut on this play. Isn't the niger thing more recent than that on mass media?

[Kahuna]

10. I myself sent a link to Wolf last week about freeped polls...

Before my email the poll was leaning toward bushie. After the email it went totally the other way and we ended up winning with over 80% of the vote to my surprise. I don't remember which poll it was.

[Liberator_Rev]

13. Great move, Kahuna, and maybe that's what made

the change. But whatever happened, we've all got to be dilligent about voting ourselves and publicizing the polls to get our people to vote, and to publicize the results.

[SoCalDem]

20. This is the link to send them

save it..print it.. whatever.. But this one is a real time "discussion" about software to cheat, and a primer on the way they cheat..

http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/News/freeperlies.htm

[Lexingtonian]

6. Hmmmm

My own guess was that some large group of diffuse Democrats was simply getting more diligent about online polls. My favorite theory was that the heavily Democratic federal employees around D.C. have gotten tired of certain media outlets depicting a conservative popular consensus where it's not the case.

[izzie]

8. I think things go in waves, and it is slowly building as always.

People are running into people who have been in Iraq or are there. People know people who have lost their jobs, and they see their 'tax' cut and what they get. It is like the snow ball thing. In jack boots the right will love this man but the thinkers start to see the light. I do think in our history we had a think called the 'knownothing party' and we have it once more.

[DODI]

9. Several Possible Reasons

1. He is being taken down from the "inside" (see From the Wilderness)
2. As mentioned, disenchanted Freepers
3. America is waking up -- I hope that is the case.

There is so much stuff coming at this adminstration it is hard to keep up. Just a couple of weeks ago the stuff was working in their favor. They just kept throwing stuff at the wall to see what stuck. Now you have a bad situation in Iraq, the fundys (Pat) are making them look real bad, the deficit, the economy, the environment. The stuff is now flying in the other direction and they are having trouble deflecting it.

[David__77]

14. Number 1

I think that a part of the establishment has decided, or is soon to decide, that Bush will either have to go, or at least be seriously weakened politically. This, of course, is a good thing.

[wndycty]

11. How many people are voting?

I am paying closer attention to the number of people who are voting. I have been wondering whether or not the numbers have been changing because more people are voting, thus making them harder to Freep. I think its too early to know what is behind this trend.

[Must_B_Free]

22. I seem to recall way more votes in the past

like 26,000 now there are less (~16,000)

[Jackpine Radical]

12. I've noticed on several of Blitzer's polls

that the early returns will be about even or even tilted toward the conservative/hawk position, but as votes accumulate the poll starts tilting the other way, sometimes going from 55-45 conservative to 10-90 liberal. You can see this on threads where people here vote & report the interim results at the time of their vote. It's as if all the FReeping was done in ther first hour or so, and then honest respondents overwhelm the FReeped results. I saw this on at least 3 or 4 polls that I looked at in the past few days. You could probably pull up the threads & see it for yourself.

[sable302]

16. There was a poll posted here the other day

asking if Bush should be investigated re the Niger thing.

90% answered yes. I cannot for the life of me believe that 90% of everybody thinks Bush should be investigated (though I can hope).

This just shows how pointless these polls can be.

[Trajan]

17. Could it be ? ....

That CNN has altered their polling software to deny multiple votes ? .....

Could they have designed UNFREEPABLE polls ? ...

Counld it be that 90 % ACTUALLY WANT to see Bush SLAMMED for his lies ??? .....

Damn .... Could be .....

[Bandit]

18. My guess is the price of computers is dirt cheap right now

Even Democrats can afford to own one now and they are beginning to make themselves heard. You can get a pretty darn good set-up for under five hundred dollars now. More people of lessor means on the web and the impact is being felt.

[Generic Other]

21. The next manufactured crisis may not be in Bush's control

Not if North Korea's first son has something to say about it.