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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:47 PM
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ANSWER says it organized the march, but the "The Independent" says it was
United For Peace and Justice (UFPJ) .

" The families' descent upon Washington to participate in three days of anti-war protests this weekend organised by the group United For Peace and Justice (UFPJ) comes at a time when public support in the US for the war stands at an all-time low. A recent poll conducted for The New York Times suggested that only 44 per cent of Americans now believe the invasion of Iraq was the correct thing to do. Around 80 per cent are concerned that the spiralling costs of the occupation are diverting resources needed in the US. "

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article314492.ece

SO who really organized yesterday's march?
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:49 PM
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1. it was a joint effort between the both of them, or so I thought. nt
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 05:54 PM
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2. The hijacking begins
I saw the same thing in college. The Trotskyites would simply push to the front of any march or protest with their banner, and it makes them the vanguard of the masses, at least in appearance.

Here, we see the movements trying to become the leaders of an anti war movement to push an unrelated agenda. One saw the same when Bush became the war president to push and unrelated agenda.

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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:08 PM
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4. I do believe it was a multicephalous undertaking . . .
With ANSWER and UPFJ among a number of organizations that have been putting this protest together for months. I do know that in the run up to the war, when I was living in SF, ANSWER was the leading organization among the coalition who put together our demos. And yes, a variety of organizations are going to come out with a variety of agendas.

The bottom line is that this war is SO wrong, and this administration SO despicable, that just about anyone who thinks about the reality of the situation could come up with some reason to march on Washington in protest.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:20 PM
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9. I Hate Trotskyists
The neocons came from that, too. Nothing but a bunch of annoying troublemakers. Neocons=Trotskyists ANSWER=Trotskyists.

Tammy
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:04 PM
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3. If someone has that ANSWER flyer...
Just wanted to see again how they advertised their role
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:10 PM
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7. here
(you'll need Adobe Reader)

http://www.internationalanswer.org/
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:25 PM
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5. That's how I knew it-
United For Peace And Justice held the rally in conjunction with ANSWER...

Cindy appeared in support of UPandJ... not ANSWER.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:33 PM
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6. C-span called it an ANSWER rally.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:18 PM
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8. There were 2 marches. The "September 24 National Coalition"
(which doesn't consist of UFPJ) was the group that organized one of the marches, although as the press release announcing the formation comes from ANSWER one could assume that they were the driving force. Anyway,

"The leadership of the September 24 National Coalition includes the A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition, National Council of Arab-Americans (NCA), Muslim American Society (MAS) Freedom Foundation, Haiti Support Network, Alliance for a Just and Lasting Peace in the Philippines, National Lawyers Guild, Al Awda: The Palestine Right to Return Coalition, Mexicanos Sin Fronteras / Mexicans Without Borders, Women's Anti-Imperialist League (WAIL), and A.N.S.W.E.R. Youth and Student National Coalition."

The following is ANSWER's response to the UFPJ announcing a march on the 24th:

Question: What is A.N.S.W.E.R.'s position on a united demonstration? What has it done to achieve a united front with UFPJ?

Response: The A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition believes that a principled united front demonstration is in the best interest of the movement to stop the illegal and criminal war against Iraq and the U.S. war machine's drive for empire and conquest.

A.N.S.W.E.R. has proposed such a united front to UFPJ for September 24 and remains open to forging a united rally and march on Washington.

On May 12, the day that the A.N.S.W.E.R. Steering Committee issued its call for the September 24 March on Washington, A.N.S.W.E.R. sent a letter to UFPJ offering a 50/50 united front activity for September 24, 2005, along the same terms as the united front demonstrations between the two coalitions held on October 25, 2003, and March 20, 2004.

Question: Is A.N.S.W.E.R. calling for a separate demonstration on September 24?

Response: No. A.N.S.W.E.R. issued a call on May 12 and invited UFPJ to work together in a united front demonstration. Eleven days later, on May 23, UFPJ's leadership responded to A.N.S.W.E.R.'s proposal for unity by issuing a public announcement, without consulting their membership, that they were now going to cancel their planned September 10, 2005, demonstration in NYC and instead call a demonstration on September 24 in Washington DC, the same date and location as the earlier A.N.S.W.E.R. call. UFPJ added that they were opposed to a united activity and that they would hold a separate demonstration from A.N.S.W.E.R.
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:25 PM
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10. I went thinking United for Peace and Justice
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 08:26 PM by Puregonzo1188
organized the rally, and even if ANSWER had the permits, I still say UFPJ did the organizing, because before the event their flier were the only one I had seen on various websites. So I think UFPJ and various other groups drew the people out, ANSWER just had the permits thus taking the credit.
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