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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 05:41 PM
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Is Grover Norquist Really an Anarchist?
Definition of Anarchism from Merriam Webster:

Main Entry: an·ar·chism
Pronunciation: 'a-n&r-"ki-z&m, -"när-
Function: noun
1 : a political theory holding all forms of governmental authority to be unnecessary and undesirable and advocating a society based on voluntary cooperation and free association of individuals and groups


Famous Quote by Grover Norquist:

"I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub."

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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 05:42 PM
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1. If you mean "libertarian socialist." you are sadly mistaken
Anarchism as a term has historically been used to describe anarcho-socialists (aka libertarian socialists), not anarcho-capitalists.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 05:45 PM
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3. tell me more
I'm ready to learn
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 06:48 PM
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6. My thoughts on libertarian socialism
Edited on Sat Sep-24-05 06:56 PM by Selatius
Libertarian socialists try to achieve a socialist model of living not through legislating it and imposing it through the state bureaucracy but instead by encouraging people to directly organize to liberate themselves as well as emphasizing education to further organization, cooperation, and understanding in an attempt to emancipate the people from exploitation caused by the concentration of wealth-making capital (resources and the means of production) into the hands of a relatively small number of people, the rulers and capitalists at the top. As a result, these socialists are not traditional reformist state socialists who advocate winning power in pre-existing concentrated decision-making structures (the state), and they have even less in common with socialists who may exhibit more authoritarian tendencies.

Some have dubbed it "voluntary socialism" or "laissez-faire socialism" in that people are allowed to choose to participate. A choice is given to the individual. This may not necessarily be true with state socialists (be they authoritarian or democratic) as participation in that case can be compulsory regardless of what the individual thinks. Those who wish not to participate should be allowed to leave and be left alone. Forcing them to particpate would only cause friction and reduce the productivity of those who do wish to participate in such an economic relationship as they would act as dead weight and ultimately harm the well-being of all involved.

If several individuals come together and pledge to support and protect one another using the skills and whatever else they have for the mutual survival of all involved, that, basically, is an example of libertarian socialism, as there was no state to coerce or force the individuals to come together.

Perhaps the most well-known example of a libertarian socialist in the US today is Noam Chomsky. He's an anarcho-syndicalist, a branch found within the libertarian socialist school of thought. (There are several branches as well as those who don't consider themselves belonging to any branch) George Orwell was also a form of libertarian socialist, as well as Franz Kafka. Emma Goldman was another notable American libsocialist.

The history of those who fought for libertarian socialism has been long and bloody if not painful, but it's the history of struggle in general.

http://flag.blackened.net/liberty/libsoc.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism


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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 06:34 PM
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4. Well then, the question should be
Is he an anarcho-capitalist. :)
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 05:44 PM
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2. no, he's just a corporate stooge. if that crowd wanted to make neutering
dogs illegal, he'd be all over it.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 06:41 PM
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5. He minored in bomb making.
flunked I guess.
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