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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:22 AM
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Abbie Hoffman
I watched "Steal This Movie" last night.I hope everyone going to DC is careful,I suspect COINTELPRO will be there ,trying to start things.I cried at the end,I am sad that all the work of the sixties must be repeated.Anybody that was around back then,I am in awe of your bravery,and anyone going to DC this weekend,that goes double for you.Love, Theresa
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:41 AM
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1. Abbie matches the profile of an agent provocateur
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 08:45 AM by leveymg
Unlike most of the Yippies who were in Chicago at the Democratic National Convention, he miraculously managed to avoid getting arrested (and getting his head caved in) by the Chicago Police. He claims he was sitting in a restaurant during the melee in Grant's Park, the most violent part of the "police riot."

Hoffman was later convicted on drug charges, he somehow managed to escape prison. Despite being one of the most wanted (and most famous) fugitives on the FBI list, he then spent the next 15 years undetected, living openly in a small town - yes, he got a nose job but was still quite recognizable -- he was even elected to local office.

This same sequence of events happened with several key counter-culture figures, including Tim Leary and Bernadette Dorn. Lots of others weren't so lucky.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:44 AM
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2. He was hiding out up where I live
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 08:45 AM by shadowknows69
in the thousand islands. not inconceiveable he could have avoided justice up there. I can't agree with your assesment, but maybe I'm blinded by the fact Abbie was one of my heroes.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:00 AM
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3. If he were the only one, I'd chalk it up to luck. But, this same
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 09:01 AM by leveymg
chain of events happened with others. The sequence: rises to prominence within a group, talks others into illegal acts, avoids arrest and serious injury during police roundups, miraculously avoids capture or escapes from custody, lives quietly with an assumed identity in a small town, receives extraordinarily lenient sentence after turning self in decades later.

I'd say that's the Federal Agent Provocateur Protection Program in action. This approach was learned from the example of Czarist Russia. A century ago, Imperial secret police (The Okhrana) ran the most violent revolutionary groups through police agents. From the mid-1880s until the 1917 Revolution, Okhrana agent provocateurs headed up terrorist groups, the outrages of which (bombings and assassination) led to bloody crackdowns that decimating the opposition, and forestalled the inevitable overthrow of the old regime.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:02 AM
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4. I have always thought the same about "Saint Abbie"
and that he was suicided once he became an anachronism and of no further use
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:04 AM
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5. Hoffman didn't "live openly"
He used an alias and constructed an entire phony personal history.

The reason many of these counterculture figures didn't suffer draconian punishment is simple -- they were usually guilty of only the most minor of crimes.

Hoffman, I don't think was guilty of anything, though simply disagreeing with Nixon was usually cause for paranoia.

Tim Leary was incarcerated after the cops found a small amount of marijuana on his daughter Susan, who was 14 or 15 at the time. He said it was his to spare her several years in juvenile detention or (at the "discretion" of the District Asshole) about a dozen years in prison.

After the hippie-hating era passed, no one in their right mind wanted to keep guys like Hoffman and Leary in prison.

Compare them to the Conservative counterculturists -- Paul Hill, Mark Chapman, and Tim McVeigh. They have body counts. Hoffman and Leary had exemplary personal histories. Only a few members of the Weather Underground were involved in killings -- two bombings, IIRC.

The only story about how "violent" the hippies were that is getting any play is the well-refuted lie that the hippies spat on soldiers returning from Vietnam. If even one percent of those stories were true, the streets would have been knee-deep in counterculture spittle. I don't think that even ONE "spitting hippie" episode has ever been verified.

--p!
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:40 AM
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9. You're right - when I said openly, I mean he wasn't a hermit.
I also agree that Hoffman and Leary weren't really dangerous, except that the Bureau saw them as effective counter-culture propagandists and advocates of illegal drug use. The CIA, at least in Leary's case, took a rather more creative approach to influencing the political and social climate than did the FBI, and Leary claimed his old Agency connections got him out of several jams.

With the exception of a few shootouts between the Panthers and the police, and the death (apparently unintentional) during the bombing of a University of Michigan computing center, I don't recall any real instances of the intentional use of deadly political violence by the Left during the Vietnam War era. In the mid-1970s, remnants of the Weather Underground carried out an armoured car robbery and the subsequent fatal shooting of a policeman. The SLA and the Patty Hearst kidnapping was political theater, and Manson's Helter Skelter something quite sinister, indeed.

Several would-be revolutionary bombers died when their bombs went off "accidentally", and there were often FBI informants at the center of things, providing explosives and ammunition.

Despite the rather one-sided use of violence by the authorities, the mass media absolutely blew up out of proportion any evidence of Left-wing violence. In a political battle for the hearts and minds of the general public, any sort of violence by the opposition is totally counter-productive.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:11 AM
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6. Way wrong.
Abbie didn't "escape prison." As Barry Freed, he was active in organizing grass roots environmentalists, and became friends with Tommy "the Rabbi" Trantino, among other things.

Regarding his "avoiding getting arrested (and getting his head caved in)," if these are measures of one's being sincere, the truth is that Abbie got arrested more than most people, and got the hell beat out of him many, many times.

Your post is way off base.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:21 AM
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12. We often disagree. That's okay.
Actually, he jumped bond. Here's a sympathetic obituary of Abbie, really more of a eulogy. Like Leary, he had an angel who kept him afloat and moved him in and out of the country, and both remained improbable fugitives-at-large for a long time. Both had the same nemesis on their trail - G. Gordon Liddy - aside from J. Edgar Hoover, the closest this country has had in modern times to a real political policeman.

http://old.valleyadvocate.com/25th/archives/abbies_road.html
Abbie's Road 1936-1989

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By Al Giordano
originally published on April 24, 1989
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His road began in Worcester, the Massachusetts city of seven hills and no thrills, on November 30, 1936, at 4:30 p.m., double-trouble in a triple-decker house. The end of the road came on April 12, 1989, when Abbie Hoffman was found lying peacefully in his bed outside of New Hope, Pennsylvania, with a stomach full of barbiturates and a legacy that will be felt for as long as the rest of the human race survives. The fact that the coroner said he committed suicide does not for one moment erase all the good he did while serving his life-sentence on planet earth. Abbie was captain of his own ship. He did everything on his own terms, including die.

SNIP

His was a long and winding road that, indeed, led to your door. It took him down dusty brown dirt Mississippi back roads in 1964, past the little shacks and big hearts of the southern civil rights movement. He drove through a cultural explosion of free speech, hallucinogenic drugs, the sexual revolution, and the emergence of a counter-culture. He labored to organize that youth culture into a potent political force against the war in Vietnam and more.

But if his life is to be fairly described as a road, one cannot ignore all the tailgating behind him. Eleven state legislatures once passed laws banning Abbie Hoffman's entry, by name. (Abbie, of course, would hop on the first plane he could into each state to challenge and subsequently overturn the law in court.) The FBI compiled 68,000 pages of files on him, and hired two psychologists to analyze him from afar.

Superspy G. Gordon Liddy was commissioned by the U.S. government to draft a plan to kidnap Hoffman to Mexico. Federal agents repeatedly posed as political allies, followed him around, illegally tapped his phones, broke into his home, and prosecuted him for conspiracy to incite a riot in the case of the Chicago 8 (a.k.a. Chicago 7). The American Civil Liberties Union would later call it the most important political trial of the century.

Abbie made enemies in high places. During the 1971 Mayday demonstrations against the war, President Richard M. Nixon's White House tapes recorded an oval office conversation between the president and his chief of staff, H. R. Haldeman:

SNIP

In 1973 . . . As part of his research, he was interviewing drug dealers -- on his wiretapped telephone. His natural curiosity for the study of underground commerce, and his legendary willingness to try anything once, led him to be present during a cocaine deal between two sides whom he had helped to bring together. There were undercover agents on both sides. It was the very first night that the tough new Rockefeller drug law took effect. For his role, he faced a mandatory 15-to-life sentence in New York state. He would later write, "I shouldn't have been there."

The tires screeched as Abbie crashed not into a dead end, but into a new life, underground -- in reality many lives, many names, many homes, a constant road due to the need to be a moving target. As a most wanted and famous fugitive, easily recognized across the globe from his photos on the evening news and in morning papers, his only hope was plastic surgery. He went under the knife and emerged with a nose job.

His years underground are perhaps the least well-known in his life's story. . . . And it was there that Abbie met Johanna Lawrenson, his running mate. She kept him alive for 15 years. In his writings from that time, he called her "Angel, who led me into the valley of life." They ran together in a land of brujos and ruined cities of stone, and through Europe and the sad grey American underground. He was madly in love with her until the end.

At times during his seven-year flight, Abbie would surface for guerrilla press conferences. In 1979 he turned up at the John F. Kennedy Memorial Library in Boston for a rendezvous with reporters at a building that President Jimmy Carter had dedicated 10 days earlier. After the death of Judge Julius Hoffman, the nasty little man who had presided over the Chicago conspiracy trial, Abbie appeared in a Groucho Marx nose and glasses, and danced on Julie's grave for a photographer, in fulfillment of a courtroom promise.

SNIP

In the late '70s Johanna brought Abbie to her Thousand Islands home on the border of Upstate New York and Canada, where she had spent much of her youth with her mother, author Helen Lawrenson, and her father, maritime union organizer Jack Lawrenson. The road became a rolling river. Cars were replaced by boats. The international border would provide a convenient escape if necessary. Abbie took up fishing, cooking, even relaxing, and settled in under the alias of Barry Freed. For a while it almost seemed as if there would be a happy ending in sight, blissful obscurity.

SNIP

Disguised as mild-mannered citizen activist Barry Freed, he was appointed to a federal environmental commission by President Carter -- and awarded a citation from New York Gov. Hugh Carey for his environmental work. After the disguised Hoffman, in a suit and tie, gave calm and reasoned testimony to a U.S. congressional committee, Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan leaned into his microphone and reportedly said, "Mr. Freed, after listening to you, now I know that the '60s are finally over."

In 1980 the road surfaced again as Barbara Walters was whisked through a labyrinth of islands by speedboat for the secret blockbuster interview that would mark the second coming of Abbie Hoffman. Working with his lifetime lawyer Gerald Lefcourt, who never once sent him a bill, Abbie made arrangements to turn himself in and face the charges.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:57 AM
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13. I knew Abbie. n/t
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 01:29 PM
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17. I joined the Yippies
at age 16 in NYC. That was in 1974, and Abbie had already gone underground. Never met him.

I know that I'm treading on dangerous ground by suggesting that Abbie may have made a deal with the man at some point along the way. Knowing how the feds operate, I would be shocked if he hadn't been approached.

Did he ever talk about that subject with you?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:57 PM
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18. No. n/t
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:24 AM
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8. If he avoided getting arrested in Chicago, how did he become
one of the Chicago Seven?

He was much too high profile to fit the 'profile' of agent provacateur. The true agent provacateur stayed in the background because if he became public, someone would recognise him from his police academy or young republican days, thus blowing his cover.

Hoffman's life, till he went underground, was an open book and no one ever came out to say that he wasn't what he professed himself to be.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:55 AM
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10. Google: Evno Azev and Father Gapon
Nobody said that agents provocateur are actually FBI officers who infiltrate groups. No, they're usually recruited from within revolutionary groups, and often "turned" after an initial arrest. They're given money and resources, and if they have talent, will rise to leadership roles. Azev (also spelled Azeev) rose to lead the Battle Organization of the Socialist Revolutionary Party in Russia -- he assassinateda number of leading officials, including the Czar's Interior Minister and a Police General, all the while he was being controlled by the head of the St. Petersburg Okhrana.

Father Gapon was also recruited as a paid agent of the Okhrana. Gapon started out as a leading social reformer and the legitimate head of a large union, who later led the protest procession to the Czar's Winter Palace in 1905. Troops fired on that crowd and killed hundreds. That was the "Bloody Sunday" massacre. The event backfired on the Okhrana, and is often considered a seminal event leading to the overthrow of the Czar 12 years later.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:16 AM
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7. It could get ugly, we'll have to wait and see
sometimes it has to get uglier before it starts getting better.

I'll be taking my chances at the march and at the mass civil disobedience on Monday the 26th.

If you don't hear from me by Wednesday, I'm probably in jail. Fortunately, I took the whole week off work :P
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:21 AM
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11. I hope it doesn't get ugly. But if it does, it will hurt Bush even more
than Katrina. Stamping of freedoms in the US while fighting, killing, and dying for freedom in Iraq just won't go a long way for the Bush crowd.
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:11 PM
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14. Stay safe!
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:40 PM
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16. Will do!
I have taken training on nonviolent civil disobedience, and I will be spending Sunday at another training with the group who will be doing the action on Monday.

I hope not to get arrested, but I think we are at the point where some people are going to have to cross the line in order to get our voices heard. I have a clean record, so I am willing to take the chance.

:patriot:
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:20 PM
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15. Love it or leave it? We left it motherfuckers!
Doesn't sound like any pig infiltrants I ever met!
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