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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 04:59 PM
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Thinking of some kind of frame- "pillaging legislation"-
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 05:00 PM by BullGooseLoony
that way of putting it isn't so good, but you get the idea, right?

What's the correct grammar, there, while maintaining the connotation?

An expert would throw in some kind of alliteration, as well, or something else that would make it more catchy.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 05:04 PM
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1. No, actually, not sure where you are going
Are you referring to the Katrina funding, with cash for cronies provisos (KBR, Halliburton, Blackwater)????
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 05:11 PM
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3. I'm referring to basically all of the funding bills that have been passed
over the past 4 or 5 years.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 05:11 PM
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4. Cash For Cronies, then nt
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 05:13 PM
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6. Can you relate it back to a Congressional term, like "legislation"
or "bill," etc.?

Thinking Lakoff, here- framing. Trying to actually help.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 05:20 PM
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7. Billions for Buddies Bill, Loot for Lardasses Legislation????? nt
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 05:43 PM
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9. How about "Dollar Bills"?
NGU.


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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 05:08 PM
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2. Dean nailed it--"Culture of Corruption"
like vultures, they seek to pick the flesh off the dead and dying of New Orleans rather than restore them to health.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 05:12 PM
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5. It's gotta be more specific, aimed at legislation, in particular. nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 05:22 PM
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8. Must it be alliterative? Or could you say Cash for Cronies Act???
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ispeculate Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 05:56 PM
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10. George Lakoff is great...
and another linguistic wizard is Tad James.

Tad teaches hypnosis, NLP, and other personal growth strategies.

If you want to have some fun, name an issue or particular piece of legislation you would like to re-frame and lets get our minds together to work on it.

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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:12 PM
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11. That's what I'm hoping....the hope is to put "pillage" and "legislation,"
and the connotations of each together, at once....HOPEFULLY with some kind of alliteration, but any kind of "catchiness" will do.
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ispeculate Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 06:47 PM
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12. what context do you want to use this in?
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ispeculate Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:01 PM
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13. some possibilities...

encroaching enactments or enactments that encroach

ransacking regulations or regulations that ransack

regulations that raid

ravaging rulings or rulings that ravage

stealing statutes or statutes that steal..statutes TO steal

bills that belittle

confiscation of the constitution

prescriptions to plunder

rulings that ruin
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:07 PM
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14. Ehhh...
Like, alright...

You know how "partial-birth abortion" took on, right?

Same kind of thing. Doesn't have to be alliterative (although it seems to help).

It needs to be *seemingly* non-partisan, deliberatively, in its terminology.

"REGULATIONS" was a good start...although that actually has a bit too much of a Democratic feel to it. Try adding something to "regulations," without the radicalness of "ransack"....
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ispeculate Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:17 PM
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16. are you writing a speech or just framing an issue?
It might help if you tell me how you want this to be utilized.

I am familiar with hypnotic language patterns that can be sprinkled in if you are writing a speech.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:23 PM
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17. Useage: wide.
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 07:24 PM by BullGooseLoony
We'd want this to become fairly common terminology- but, with the subtle connotations that we want.

It can't be obvious, is the point.

I realize you're probably getting frustrated, but also realize that I probably wouldn't have posted this as a question if it was an easy thing to do.
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ispeculate Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:51 PM
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18. what is the internal representation that you want the listener to make?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 08:07 PM
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19. LOL "pillaging legislation"
:P
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:20 PM
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20. Insider funding legislation?
Insider is a bit less out there than, say, thief or crony...

Corporate welfare acts? No Bid Funding Bills???
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 07:11 PM
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15. corporate kleptocracy?
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