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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 10:59 AM
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BBV: This is how America has changed since Selection 2000...
Edited on Mon Oct-06-03 11:48 AM by TruthIsAll
Yes, we learned that Democracy, like Earth, is in the Balance. We learned that the repukes will not shrink from stealing our votes in broad daylight. Now we need Al Gore to continue exposing the Bush cabal by taking the next step and discuss Voter Computer Fraud and the need for a paper trail. Actually the DNC has finally called for this, so we are finally seeing the fruit of Bev Harris' and others labor.

Remember, it all started here at DU, less than a year ago. We have won the first battle of awareness. The naysayers can no longer deny the obvious. They can't call us conspiracy freaks. Elections have been and will be stolen unless we win the final battle to get that paper trail in every damn machine. Better yet, my preference would be to go for paper ballots, like in Canada. They just counted 11 million votes in TWO hours.

I have been a software developer for over thirty years. This is the ONE time I can truly be a Luddite and say that computer voting is a step backward. Just send out the forms, cross out the boxes and mail them in - like Oregon does it. Simple. No muss. No fuss. No stolen election. But we will NEVER see that. Just like we will never see the Electoral College replaced by a simple popular vote, which is what all other democracies use throughout the world. It makes too much sense. They represent true demnocracy. No, we cannot have that here. The Repukes won't allow it.

We are now the LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC relic. NOW WE ARE THE ANTI-DEMOCRACY.

We started learning all this during the Florida recount. We saw SCOTUS hijack the election. What should have been the award-winning work of Greg Palast in exposing the disenfranchisement of 90,000 blacks in Florida was never picked up in the whoremedia.

Now many are convinced that as many as five 2002 Senate elections were stolen through a combination of Diebold and VNS fraud - MN, GA, CO, NH, TX. We have seen the Repukes attempt to redistrict Texas and Colorado.

We are now witnessing a legal Repuke coup d'etat in the California recall, for two reasons: 1) To prevent the $9 billion suit on behalf of utility ratepayers vs. Enron from going forward and 2)to enable California to be stolen for Bush in 2004.

We have read the published analyses of hundreds of computer experts who agree with the conclusions of Johns Hopkins researchers that there are literally hundreds of ways Diebold (and other) machines can be hacked. We already know that Diebold's CEO has declared that he is committed to deliver Ohio for Bush. We have also heard the arrogant lies from Diebold and other corrupt state election officials that there is nothing to worry about. Yet we have seen the Diebold e-mails discussing the mysterious loss of 16,022 Gore votes in Volusia County, FL.

We know that Bush cannot win a fair election. We KNOW he will cheat again. For the first time in American History, the Democrats KNOW that they must win in a LANDSLIDE otherwise Bush can steal it again. For the first time, we EXPECT a presidential election to be stolen. For the first time, we cannot rely on just being right on the issues and having a strong candidate to defeat the worst president in history. We expect that the media will contiune to spin for Bush without regard for the truth or the future of the nation and the world.

We are truly doomed to lose the war if we lose the battles we are engaged in.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/recall_recount_trouble

Computer Experts Fear Recall Voter Fraud
Mon Oct 6, 5:25 AM ET

By RACHEL KONRAD, Associated Press Writer

SAN JOSE, Calif. - Punch-card ballots from Tuesday's historic recall election are sure to get a going-over by political activists, but some computer scientists think touch-screen voting machines deserve just as much scrutiny.

While punch-card ballots caused headaches for Florida election officials with their "hanging" and "pregnant" chads, 10 percent of the touch-screen machines in California don't produce paper printouts. And no printouts, the scientists say, would make a legitimate recount impossible.

"You can't do a meaningful recount if the question is about the integrity of the voting machines themselves," said David Dill, a computer science professor at Stanford University. He urged voters in the four counties using touch-screen terminals to vote with absentee ballots.

The concern of Dill and some of his colleagues was dismissed as overblown and irresponsible by county registrars and executives at the companies that sell and update the electronic voting machines.

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wakfs Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:03 AM
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1. STOP!!! YOU'RE SCARING ME!!!
It's only Monday for crying out loud!
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rwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:11 AM
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2. TruthIsAll. Nice to have you here in the morning.
I think of all DU's posters. In you the fire burns deepest.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:57 AM
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4. It burns deep, but no more than for Bev, Eloriel, DemActivist, etc.
I have posted on this topic from Day One. I now understand the meaning of true patriotism: It is the unending fight for TRUTH and JUSTICE.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 11:13 AM
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3. This is so true.
And it's so scary. :scared:

What are we going to do about electronic voting?
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