Did Chelsea Clinton ever get busted for drugs or booze or resisting arrest

[Proud2BAmurkin]

didn't think so.

rePUKES are shitty parents and shouldn't be allowed to reproduce.

[JuniperLea]

1. She was a very good girl

Never heard one bad thing about her. I'm sure we would have heard all about it had there been something.

[Sanity Claws]

2. Amy Carter also was raised right

I don't recall her ever getting arrested or getting drunk either.

[wakeme2008]

4. But there was a lot of names they

called her over her looks

Uh Oh, Shields UP ... Incoming ... Prepare to repel boarders .... Dive, Dive, Dive. :)

[kestrel91316]

53. Amy, to her credit, did get arrested in an act of civil disobedience

while protesting the first Bush or some Republican nonsense, IIRC, years ago.

[napi21]

3. No, but both BC and JC had brothers who were a bit....wild.

You remember Billy Carter of the Billy Beer fame, and I don't remember Bill's brother, but I recall him being in a bit of trouble several times.

[kdmorris]

6. Clinton's brother is Roger, I think n/t

[tjdee]

8. BC and JC didn't raise their brothers.

You know, it's a reflection of the parenting, it really is. There's such a thing as a problem here, and a problem there....but isn't this now every single one of Jeb's kids with an arrest?

Jeb Jr. has two? WTF is going on there? I mean, multiple arrests?

All of his children have been arrested. Sorry, their parenting sucked.

[rinsd]

11. Really, so are Gore and Dean shitty parents?

This is a bullshit standard.

Their parents are assholes in office, I don't care what the kids do.

[melody]

14. the issue isn't the parenting, but the hypocrisy

Old Jabba the Bush and his Shrub brother are high priests of the family values stump. They ought to dance to their own tunes.

[rinsd]

17. The poster I responded to...

...didn't make issue of hypocrisy but that it was a reflection of parenting. Even if they had, to me its a cheap cop out to rationalize an attack on a non-public figure.

[melody]

21. I agree actual *children* should be off-limits

But adult children of politicians benefit from being in the limelight. Ergo, they should take the rest that comes with it. It also is a commentary of the relative congruency of their parents' practice versus their preaching, as I said.

[tjdee]

16. ALL of Jeb's kids have been arrested.

As I said, obviously kids do stupid things and things happen. But every single one of your kids having a criminal record? Getting arrested is not easy. It's not like getting a speeding ticket.

[karynnj]

50. Didn't Gore's son simply get a traffic ticket

I agree with you basic statement that the kids are not in office and would not have considered newspapers printing this fair. But last year, Rove ran a campaign that slammed the Democrats on values, distorting their records and questioning their values.

Had Dean been the candidate, they would have used his son's offense, to hit Dean with. What should have been seen was that both Judy and Howard Dean were with their son and supported him. I would imagine this will be the last time Paul (?) Dean is ever in trouble.

Good Parenting doesn't mean your kids will never do anything wrong, but that you will be supportive and deal with problems and help the child learn from the experience. With Jeb and George's kids, it seems their parents' have merely conveyed that the rules are not for them. (Look at the speech that Karen Hughes wrote FOR the twins - almost glorifing their behavior. )

[karynnj]

48. Jeb actually has 3

George P, Jeb Jr and Noelle all had problems

[Jon8503]

5. And she never gave lap dances either.

[Dr Fate]

7. No- but she slipped the drugs into the Bush kid's drinks. n/t

n/t

[onager]

12. There were rumors...

...that someone had videos of Chelsea simultaneously chugging Everclear, shooting up heroin and boffing a German shepherd.

I think his name was "Foster" or something like that. Go over to Free Repubic and you can get the whole story.

:sarcasm:

[rinsd]

9. That's the standard you want?

Al Gore's kid got busted speeding and for pot.

Howard Dean's kid got busted stealing beer.

Why people obssess about pols kids...I just can't understand.

Its what the parents do in office that is what counts.

[HoosierClarkie]

13. I do not buy that.

I think that the way a child acts is a reflection of their parents in most cases. Chelsea Clinton respected her parents enough not to act that way. or maybe it means people should stop at one kid. :shrug:

[rinsd]

19. So are you saying...

that what Gore and Dean's sons did was a reflection of them?

Or are we better to judge the men by their own actions rather than their children?

[HoosierClarkie]

25. I said most cases.

Raising children is an action.

[rinsd]

26. I was referring to actions in office (nt)

[karynnj]

51. True,

but all kids are not equally easy to raise. There are people who have suceeded and become successful people who had horrendous childhoods, others who grew up to have major problems where the parents did everything they could to try to lead in the right direction.

Obviously, good parenting is better bad parenting, but we should not delude ourselves to think that as parents we can always prevent kids from failing.

That all of Jeb's kids are having problems is a red flag though.

[HoosierClarkie]

52. I agree.

Raising three kids of my own I know that each is very different. My kids fail all the time with and without my help. :)

[Ms. Toad]

47. I'd have to differ on that...

In our family we run the gamut (Ms "goody two shoes" to death row inmate), addictions (nearly teetotaler/non-smoker to chain smoking and alcoholism), drug use (nothing illegal to regular use of marijuana/peyote), politics (left to agnostic to moderate/right), education (6th grade drop-out to 3 degrees after high school), income (SSI to six figure).

There's a whole lot more than parenting that forms a child.

[abluelady]

30. Neither of them are President, though!

[Jon8503]

40. You know, you are right. I get caught up in this too sometimes. The

kids are under a lot of pressure and I have never believed in all cases the parents are responsible always.

[KayLaw]

10. Or writing fake prescriptions?

Or crack cocaine? Or lying to customs about fantastically expensive clothes?
No. . .I think it was someone other than Chelsea.

[AzDar]

15. I believe Amy Carter WAS arrested once...during a student protest

(iirc). I'm sure her Dad was very proud, I know I would've been!!!

[China_cat]

20. It wasn't until after her dad had been out of office for a while

that that happened.

The biggest complaint about Amy while she was a resident of the White House was that she once brought a book to the table and read during a state dinner.

The Carters caught all kinds of hell for 'letting' her do that.

[randomescape]

18. Chelsea didn't but Gore's son had a few "incidents" with the law.

[oasis]

24. A few? Laura Bush avoided the law when her auto wiped out an old beau.

Ever read that?

[randomescape]

27. Yes

I'm not trying to justify it, I'm just stating the fact that it can happen to anybody. By the way the Laura Bush isn't the only "political figure" who killed someone in a car accident.

[oasis]

31. Lori Klausutis did not die in a car accident. Unless Joe Scarborough's

old office had a drive- thru.

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[kestrel91316]

55. Adult "kids" are fair game if they are engaging in criminal behavior, IMHO

I notice Kerry's daughters seem to have no trouble behaving like civilized human beings.

[Yupster]

42. And Laura Bush was not Laura Bush

when she did that.

She was a seventeen year old nobody from a not well known family. She had no political connections back then.

[marshall]

41. There's always rumors about those in the limelight:

http://www.befuddle.co.uk/celebs/celebs_chelsea_clinton.html

Whether they're true or not is another story.

[bluestateguy]

49. And SArah Gore was cited for underage drinking

she was like 16, and in a car with a boy when she was caught.

The difference is that the Gore's don't claim to be chosen by God for leadership, and they don't wrap themselves in all of the "family values" nonsense.

[pitohui]

22. she was busted by the fashion police

hey what's more important

[daa]

23. And that makes Al Gore .......????????????

[Media_Lies_Daily]

37. And what does that make YOU?

[daa]

59. and what does that make you???????

[journalist3072]

28. Can we not trash the kids?

The kids aren't responsible for the sins of the parents.

And we didn't like it when the right-wing trashed Chelsea.

[randomescape]

29. Thank you.

This is the point I was trying to make with my post. I don't want to be put on the same level as people who trash kids because they don't like the parents!

[Beaverhausen]

32. I might agree except it shows a pattern with the Bushs

all Jebs kids have been in trouble with the law. and both george's girls were also arrested for underage drinking.

then again...if Babs was my grandma I drink heavily too!

[jackster]

39. That's it!

We all know that really great "kid" that got in trouble once. This is a different story. It's all three of Jeb's and both of George's kids. And now Jebby's got two arrests under his belt (no pun intended). And George P.'s arrest was really an act of domestic violence. There's something seething in that family.

Don't forget Columba's smuggling....

[journalist3072]

57. Not necessarily

I was raised in the church, and raised in a Christian home. And I've never been in trouble with the law or anything before. But let's say I have. It would not signal any failure on my mother's part.

Children get grown and make certain decisions, despite their upbringings sometime.

Mind you, I'm not hardly being an apologists for the Bushies here.

I'm just saying we shouldn't blame children for the sins of their parents, and we can't always blame parents for the sins of their children.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

34. What goes around comes around. Get used to it. Take no prisoners.

[kestrel91316]

56. Thank you. Right on.

[oasis]

38. When the "family values" party fails to walk the walk, they need to be

taken to task.

[philosophie_en_rose]

43. It's not about the kids at all. It's about the parents.

I'm not saying that all kids are a reflection of their parents.

However, it is a testament to the Clintons - who freepers mock as immoral - that they raised such a smart and successful daughter.

As for Gore and Dean - there is a difference between sneaking some pot and systematically writing false prescriptions, stalking an ex-girlfriend, and other Bushjr fiascos.

[gulliver]

58. Know the tree by its fruit.

One bad fruit, maybe a coincidence. All bad fruit, you're looking at a bad tree.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

33. Nope. Neither did Amy Carter.

[maine_raptor]

35. It's the Hypocrisy

Jeb, George, Laura, Newt, and the rest talk the "family values" talk, but when the rubber meets the road, they don't walk the walk.

Both Chelsea and Amy grew up to fine responsible adults, yet their parents never made a political career of espousing "family values" and bashing their opponents over the head with it.

[onager]

44. Yep, that's exactly it.

The yawning gulf between what these wowsers say and what they do.

And I see another good reason to keep an eye on all Bu$h spawn. You can just bet that every one of the little buggers is being groomed to enter "public service" and suck off the public teat for the rest of their lives...just like the parental units.

I still remember all the media butt-kissing of that smarmy little George P. (Jeb's whelp) during sElection 2000. I don't know how many times I heard the media 'ho's fawn over him as "the heir apparent to the Bu$h dynasty." Etc.

That was before the stories surfaced about him getting stoned and using his SUV to dig doughnuts in an ex-girlfriend's lawn.

If the media had paid more attention to the youthful hijinks of $hrub and Jeb, we might not have the two of them stinking up public office today.

[maine_raptor]

45. George P., et al

I remember the fawning over...kinda interesting that that happened BEFORE "Bush League President(BLP)" was elected...I mean how can you have a "Dynasty" prior to the 2nd member getting the top job? I always thought you had to have a 2-fer before you talked that talk, at least in sport you do. :shrug:


Problem with "knowing" about the early life of the BLP, is that he was "off the radar" during those years, and by the time he did appear on the media scope, his past history had been stealth-ed.

[HughMoran]

46. I believe she's still studying at Oxford

Imagine either of the Bush twins able to make it at Oxford.

[journalist3072]

54. No, she's finished at Oxford

She was there for 2 years to get her Master's Degree. Now she is working with McKinsey & Company.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/03/08/chelsea.clinton.ap/