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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 04:19 PM
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I dont hear or see real critical evaluation of WHY bushco wants roberts.
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 04:21 PM by bullimiami
I believe it is because he is their made man. From the early days he has been a true believer and good soldier. He has never failed them. It is not idealogical, its not abortion, its about power and control of the courts for the evil elite.

They brought him up from nowhere to the circuit and now to the scotus for one reason only. So that they will have their picked man on the high court.

They are evil pigs, gangsters, the biggest most evil mob this world has ever seen and this is their guy.

They must be pretty secure that he is theirs to give him a lifetime appointment. They must be even more sure of Roberts than they are of The Fixer, or the Incompetent Thomas.

They must be sure because they jumped him right on up to Chief J.



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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 04:25 PM
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1. Roberts worked on the Bu$h v. Gore Supreme Court Case as an advisor
and he was dispatched to work behind the scenes on the Bu$h 2000 stop the vote effort in Florida.

For those facts alone, he should be disqualified.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 04:27 PM
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4. and with Poppy on Iran Contra
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 05:03 PM
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9. I did NOT know that.
:(
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 05:05 PM
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10. read this and weep
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 05:08 PM
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11. OMG. Thanks (I think?) :( n/t
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 04:25 PM
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2. Institutionalizing Fascism.
That's what they're doing. Buh-bye Constitution.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 04:25 PM
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3. Why, that's exactly what you'll never find out.
Bush (or his agents) get private one on ones; they get the unofficial scoop, they get the opinions that would be "prejudging" if said to the Senate but just yakking when said to a WH operative.

Remember when Bush I said he picked Thomas because he was THE most qualified for the job? And when they asked him if he had ever voiced an opinion on Roe, he said that no, he had never discussed it. Ever. With anyone?

The fact Bush finds roberts acceptable makes Roberts presumptively a nutbag reactionary.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 04:28 PM
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5. I'll probably eat my words for saying this
but I'll take him over Scalia and Thomas right now.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 05:26 PM
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12. But...he's No Different FROM Scalia and Thomas? He's a Federalist.
:shrug:
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 09:50 PM
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13. Yeah...I know.
But Scalia scares the crap out of me with his Opus Day leanings. Thomas is just too untrustworthy. He may say he's a republican conservative but its hard to really pin down what he believes in at all.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 04:39 PM
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6. There are going to be many evidence rulings in Plame case
Bush needs to make sure they have a good boy on the bench for that. That's probably more important to them right now than any other issue - including abortion.

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Amy6627 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 04:47 PM
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7. If you like the Patriot Act and Guantánamo, you'll love John Roberts
The following is from "The Nation" http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050801/shapiro2

To understand Judge Roberts's unique appeal, forget for a moment "conservative," "textualist," "original intent" and the other shorthand with which get-ahead Republican law school grads watermark their résumés. Look instead at a single case decided by Judge Roberts and two other members of the DC Court of Appeals less than a week ago. As it happened, the day before that ruling was released, President Bush interviewed Judge Roberts at the White House. Judge Roberts, it is widely reported, aced his interview; but his appeals court decision due for publication just twenty-four hours later--about the rights of prisoners at Guantánamo Bay--was, in effect, the essay question.

Here is the question: Do the obligations of the Geneva Conventions apply to prisoners seized in Afghanistan? And can the President convene military trials, unreviewable by any courts and Congress? The case involves Salim Ahmed Hamdan, allegedly a driver for Osama bin Laden, captured on the post-9/11 battlefield and held in Camp Delta. Last year a federal judge shut down Hamdan's trial and up to a dozen other military tribunals. As convened by the Pentagon, those drumhead tribunals, wrote the lower court, amounted to a violation of the Geneva Treaty and an unconstitutional seizure of power by the President.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050801/shapiro2

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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 04:48 PM
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8. Unfortunately the media's emphasis on the abortion debate has obscured...
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 04:50 PM by newswolf56
Roberts' record on executive absolutism: he seems determined to twist the law to make the president a modern-day imperator -- the Latin title from which we get "emperor" as first taken by Octavian. The imperial ideology is already in place: note the Project for a New American Century, the methodical concentration of wealth, the concurrent rise of Christofascism, and the deliberate disempowerment of everyone who is not part of the oligarchy. The purpose behind Roberts' appointment is to pack the court so that "president" can be made synonymous with Caesar, Kaiser and Czar, with verdicts to make New Orleans the working-class norm -- this in a New World Order so maliciously harsh it fails to muster even the shred of humanity that kept the Roman masses sated on bread and circuses.


Edit: typo. (Haste makes waste.)
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