OMG, * is talking about IRAN and Nukes

[daninthemoon]

[yurbud]

1. where?

[in_cog_ni_to]

2. He'll never learn. He is so out of touch with reality.

If he starts talking war in Iran his poll numbers will be 10%. The man is an idiot.

[benburch]

6. Nonsense!

His "base" will eat that up! He'll stay in the 30%-40% range even if he fucks a donkey on live TV.

[H5N1]

9. His base is going to LOVE it!

[KansDem]

19. ONLY if it's a female donkey! (eom)

[in_cog_ni_to]

25. His 'base' is only the RW, nut job, wacko religious right.

REAL republicans are sick of his shit. THEY are the ones who won't buy it.

[chicagiana]

26. Some of those "wackos" ...

Some of those right wing wackos have a notoriously independent (libertarian) streak. I don't think too many people will bite on the WMD bait again.

[in_cog_ni_to]

27. Me either. They're thinking...2006. They KNOW

they're in big, big trouble.

BTW. I do seperate the REAL republicans from the RW, religious, nut job wacko base. The Dobsons and Pat Robertsons will love another war. REAL republicans are on to his bullshit game.

[ewagner]

31. Another Nightmare Scenario

This freaks me out.

What is to stop these lying F**ks from pulling what they did in 2002?

Remember how that worked?

In September of '02 Card and Rove rolled out their "new product" which was the villanization of Iraq and Saddam. They cranked up the fear factor higher and higher about Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and then they pushed the IRAQ WAR RESOLUTION in front of congress in October....just before the '02 Congressional Elections! The implications of the vote on the resolution were very, very clear: Vote against it and you were weak on defense and the Repubs would pound you into the ground in the election campaign. (Max Clelland anyone?) Vote against it and you were unpatriotic.

What's to stop the Sons of Bitches from doing it all over again? Why shouldn't they beat the war drums early and often to keep them in power in '06?

How stupid can the voting public be? Pretty stupid I'm afraid.

[in_cog_ni_to]

36. Well, it appears the MSM is not too thrilled with the asshole anymore.

IMCPO, THAT is our only hope. If the MSM doesn't cheer-lead for him, we'll be OK. I looks like they aren't letting up on his HUGE Katrina blunder. HOPEFULLY, they will still be sick of his crap come election 2006.

[DistressedAmerican]

32. This Is A Testaqble Hypothesis!

[gkhouston]

3. you are shitting me

he thinks taking responsibility for Katrina means we'll let him have a brand new shiny war? :wtf:

[Nikki Stone 1]

4. Bingo.

You win the year's supply of canned squid.

[Toots]

5. Americans ARE that stupid you know.....

Don't ever underestimate the Stupidity of Americans...

[driver8]

37. How could we? They put Shrub in office twice!!

If our country falls for this charade, I am moving out of this country quicker than shit through a goose.

[earth mom]

38. No the election was stolen TWICE. nt

[deadparrot]

12. Exactly my thoughts.

Fuck him. His words shocked me, though I know he doesn't mean it.

Here we go.

[eleny]

17. that's it!

he made the supreme sacrifice - he told the truth. now he gets his war. NOT!

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

7. "iran is awash in hydrocarbons"

is that the new word for oil?

[firefox]

13. Hydrocarbons are hydrocarbons

It is meant to include natural gas, as in Iran has more natural gas than any country in the world.

[chicagiana]

28. And how will we extract it ...

...
last time I checked we can't get the oil out of Iraq. The insurgents keep blowing up the pipeline.

From the "oil supply" perspective, we were better off when Saddam was smuggling it through Syria. And perhaps this was always the point. Get the Iraq oil OFF the market and drive the prices up. Iraq becomes a "bank account" for when Peak Oil really DOES happen.

At $70/barrel, the stuff is valuable, but not enought to sustain an entire mercenary army. The US taxpayers are subsidizing the Iraq boondoggle. But if we get $120/barrel oil, it will be enough so Shell and Chevron can buy their own mercenary legions.

[mccoyn]

30. Isn't New Orleans still awash in hydrooxides? -nt

[DemGirl7]

8. Oh great....

What kind of leader cares about a disaster in their own country when there's a Middle Eastern country that needs to get bombed into the stone-age.

[mopinko]

10. nukes are their only option

if he tells the army to go, they will say fuck you. trial balloons are everywhere.

[Jacobin]

11. Bush will now revive the great "Guns and Butter" Debate

Of the Viet Nam era.

viz: Can you fight an elective war and still provide for domestic programs and not go broke.

These guys can't remember shit.

I say stand back and let them finish shooting off their other collective foot.

[H5N1]

14. unfortunately, we live in that toilet bowl they are going to flush

A good flushing will sink all ships --- whoosh!

[ispeculate]

18. This reminds me...on Sunday which was 9/11

I saw some freepers out in the town of great neck, NY. (Long Island) That had signs apparently protesting the "terrorist" leader of Iran to be removed from New York.

I was working, so I didnt have time to play with the freeps and see what the hell they were talking about but I guess he was going to the UN.

I had a feeling when I saw that there might be a push for another war in Iraq.

Same game plan, different country.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

15. Check this link out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4751259&mesg_id=4751259

[titoresque]

22. oh ok, yeah I did

see this yesterday. Thanks Ommm.
I am sooo on the defensive now with people who have a low post count..lower than mine, after my run in the other day LOL.

I'll get over it. :)

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

24. Hugs to you titoresque. You are a wonderful spirit!

:hug:

[Imagevision]

16. With Bush's numbers dropping, he'll stoop to any level to bail...

IRAN and Nukes? this is from one sick man getting more deranged with each passing day-week-month...!

Nixon began to weird out during the end of watergate so much so that Kissenger had to warn the warhawks to clear any attacks coming from the White House on any country through him first, and that's a fact!

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

[Whoa_Nelly]

20. Anyone have the global map of who (nations) has nukes?

It is a map that shows the number of nukes known, and has those numbers indicated on the map regarding each country.

I know I saw this somewhere on DU a few weeks back.
Have searched and can't find it. Much apreciated if found and posted.


Have been reading about the possibility of pre-emptive force using nukes, and it scares the bejesus out of me. The hubris of this administration to assume nations stand alone is beyond naivety; it is insane. Iran nuked? Russia retaliates. Syria nuked? China retaliates. Any nation nuked? N. Korea moves into high gear. Any nation nuked guarantees retaliation.

OMG If this goes through, we, as a nation and the world at large, are so far beyond fucked.

[chicagiana]

29. Iranian nukes threaten us ... NOT ...

Iran with a nuke is ZERO threat to the USA. All it means is that the US can't fuck with Iran. Which is pretty much the situation already.

An Iranian nuke neither changes anything nor ADDS anything. Iran can't use a nuke on us. We can't us a nuke on Iran (now or before).

[mccoyn]

35. Thay are about as threatening as Iraq nukes.

I think that guy Al Qaida guy who was in Iraq is now in Iran trying to get a nuke from them. (This post will probally be used as intelligence now.)

[Whoa_Nelly]

39. Does Bush really care who has nukes that can be used in retaliation?

He has the football. He LOVES that he has the football, and would ENJOY punting. We have a completely narsissitic sociopath at the helm, and that's exactly what that insanely hungry for global domination PNAC wanted when they finagled him into position.

[chicagiana]

34. The stupidity is beyond reason ...

Rational people have LONG ago figured out that nukes are STRATEGIC weapons. The notion of TACTICAL nuclear weaponry is farsical. Nukes have been used ONCE. And if Japan HAD nukes, they would have retaliated.

If we used a tactical nuke, we WOULD be nuked in return. I don't care if you nuke PARAGUAY. Someone would GIVE somebody a nuke that would be smuggled INTO the US and detonated. And perhaps THIS is the situation they want to setup.

a) Bush NUKES Iran.
b) Sabre rattling throughout the world. Governments start operations to sneak a nuke (or bio-weapons) into the US.
c) Before they get a chance, Bush sets off a nuke on some decidedly Blue city in a BLUE state ... let's say ... err... LOS ANGELAS ... or ... CHICAGO.
d) Martial law is declared in order to root out the "insurgent menace". Elections are "suspended".

I can see Bush's speach on to the Senate about how much he "loves Democracy".


Too many people hate the second Star Wars trilogy. The truth is they just plain don't get it. Fighting against "the menace" is easy to portray with it's simplistic archetypes. Realizing that the REAL menace lurks within our own best intentions is too hard to grasp and too difficult to stomach.

I'm sure all the freepers out there wathing "Rome" out there don't get it either. They're all rooting for the heroic Ceaser to put down the pendantic ramblings of Pompey.

[titoresque]

21. He has been...old news.....

Seems like a "the sky is falling...the sky is falling" post.
Where did you go? I will detract my disdain for your post if you would kindly provide a litte more info. I've been gone all a.m.......did I miss some NEW news?

[doni_georgia]

23. Hell's bells - he's gotta do something to get attention off his screw up

Gotta "fear" the Merken people back into submission.

[H2O Man]

33. No source, eh?

Hard to take your post seriously.

[Midlodemocrat]

40. Locking.

No source + this subject = flamebait.

Thank you.