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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:07 PM
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I'm getting pretty pissed off at The Red Cross
heard today they have collected something like $5+ BILLION. NOW they want 40k+ VOLUNTEERS?

am i correct in this?

seems to me they could HIRE residents from NOLA at a DECENT salary to help bring aid and REBUILD

WHY are they BEGGING for volunteers?

fuck, the INTEREST alone on that amount could hire an ARMY of people who A) NEED the work and B) NEED the money!

what the HELL am i missing here?
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:11 PM
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1. No shit
How about instead of sending Army recruiters to the Astrodome, they send in the Red Cross to hire and train the much needed volunteers. I am pissed at them too.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:11 PM
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2. They're trying to make that money go further; if people volunteer
they don't have to pay. I don't particularly like the red cross either, but it's better than operation blessing! Best to give to the Louisiana fund set up by the governor, perhaps.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:12 PM
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3. fuck that
"they don't have to pay

i say PAY DAMMIT! these people NEED jobs and need them NOW

:grr:
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:24 PM
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12. Yes, they could hire local people to help out with recovery. n/t
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:13 PM
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4. I'm not a big Red Cross fan, but the last I heard they had collected
247 mil, but even with that much they could like you say and hire people in that area. Come to think of it though, would hiring people disqualify as a non-profit charity (non-profit, what a joke that is).
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:15 PM
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5. Two things:
1) The average rotation period for the volunteers is 3 weeks. They need volunteers to replace those rotating out.

2) I suspect that $5 billion is way out of the ballpark.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:16 PM
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6. you could be right on #2
$500 MILLION?

still
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:20 PM
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9. Well, considering the sheer size of the effort, $500 million may not
go very far. Housing 207,000 people and providing financial assistance to 750,000 isn't going to be cheap.

http://www.redcross.org/news/ds/hurricanes/katrina_facts.html
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:17 PM
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7. sounds like you were listening to
Big Eddie today.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:20 PM
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8. ??
"Big Eddie"?

:shrug:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:22 PM
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10. You're pissed? Read this:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:45 PM
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11. here is what you should really be pissed at
1. Castro offerred to send Doctors to lend a helping hand
2. Chavez offerred to help us with energy shortages
3. Iran offerred to help with energy shortages


bush told them all to go to hell


NOT ONLY WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN A DIALOUGE, BUT HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING A TOUGH TIME


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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:21 PM
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13. Bushites have been after Red Cross for years. Remember the Red
Cross gets to go into places like Guantanamo Bay & Abu Ghirab and report. Red Cross has taken many hits because they spend 10% on administration costs (that would be employees). So good for them for calling for 40,000 volunteers.

That way - perhaps in this crisis - 95% of the money will go to actual help.

Remember Red Cross was blocked from helping victims by FEMA.

They are simply another organization that gets in the way of the neocons. They were set up for diminishment too.

And money you give to the red cross does not in any way go to pay back Bush voters. Only money that goes to Christian groups goes to make Bush voters feel good. Also - Red Cross - by helping out effectively in past disasters - takes away from the "Goodwill" corporations get from being at the disaster. Even if the corporations pay their employees $350 an hour - they get good press from attending.

So many reasons to diminish the Red Cross.

They took hits from sending some 9/11 money to help those not actually hurt by 9/11 but sending it to other emergencies.

Just remember. When the Red Cross has been diminished in our eyes - then the Bushites can say "Red Cross into our enemy combatant jails? No way - they are an unpatriotic organization"

Don't fall for it.

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:27 PM
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14. I remember after 9/11
hearing the outrageous salaries paid to the full time red cross muckety mucks.

I can't stand them.

I'll give to the salvation army or a local poor church (I'm an atheist, but the local poor churches do an enormous amount of assistance of refugees(
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 08:44 PM
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15. Just flat out begs the damned questions over and over!
I'm not missing a thing and neither are you. You get it. You are just asking the right questions. What's wrong with this picture? Way too much!

Put on your tin foil hat and repeat after me, PsOyp!

I'm going to see my therapist in 3 weeks if not sooner. He'll help me to remove the tin foil. Maybe.
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