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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:34 AM
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What did he know and when did he know it?
Isn't that echoing Watergate?

ABC started a "Who's to Blame" segment focusing on Bush.

Oh, man, they're showing him having cake with McCain and showing the timeline of his ignorance/negligence.

Now the guitar pic is up!!!!
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:35 AM
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1. LOL!... that's great!
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:36 AM
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2. Oh, crap!
Mary Landrieu just said "Our governor wasn't on vacation, the president was."

So far, this piece is slamming him. Said state and local officials were begging for help for 48 hours and nothing was there.

Said he made the mistake of treating this storm like any other.

The reporter said the WH is blaming locals, first responders.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:44 AM
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4. This is from the Newsweek article.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9287434

The reality, say several aides who did not wish to be quoted because it might displease the president, did not really sink in until Thursday night. Some White House staffers were watching the evening news and thought the president needed to see the horrific reports coming out of New Orleans. Counselor Bartlett made up a DVD of the newscasts so Bush could see them in their entirety as he flew down to the Gulf Coast the next morning on Air Force One.

How this could be—how the president of the United States could have even less "situational awareness," as they say in the military, than the average American about the worst natural disaster in a century—is one of the more perplexing and troubling chapters in a story that, despite moments of heroism and acts of great generosity, ranks as a national disgrace.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:49 AM
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5. Yes, I saw that..........
I could be completely mistake but here's my take:

I don't believe most of the American public will "buy into" the spin they're putting on this disaster now. Those initial images are ingrained in the mass psyche.....tens of thousands begging for help, Mayor Nagin saying likely 10k dead....floating dead bodies.

There were no images of Bush during those first crucial days, however, so these new images and this timeline (new to many Americans) WILL be paid attention to simply because it is in fact new for them.

No doubt a glossed over recovery effort and Bush being "on the job" will be a large part of the news from here on, but I think the damage is done as far as his image. Many who didn't see him for what he was before can see it more clearly now.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:02 AM
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7. The vision of seeing people yelling Help at the Convention Center
will forever overshadow Bush, no matter how hard he tries to re-invent his image. He is toast.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:24 AM
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12. Especially if we help keep these memories front & center
Otherwise it will end up being yet another casualty of the short collective attention span of this Nation.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:00 AM
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6. Notice that nothing was mentioned about giving bu$h newspapers.
The dailies had big pictures and an aid could have read the captions to bu$h.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:17 AM
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9. From an interview a couple of years ago. Bush and Newspapers....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98111,00.html

HUME: So we walk into the Oval Office here.

BUSH: Yes.

HUME: How often -- how early do you get here?

BUSH: Get here about 6:50, and first thing I'll do is flip open the threat matrix. Prepared...

HUME: Is that a book or...

BUSH: No, it's just a couple of pieces of paper, prepared by the -- now the Department of Homeland Security. They take information from the FBI, the CIA, and they analyze the threats, potential threats to America. I look at them here, I go through mail. Remember I told you I can pick up the phone and call my mother and dad occasionally rack them out of the sack early. And then at 8:00, generally Andy Card will be here when I walk in. He's here earlier than I am. And he'll be here with the latest, and I'll ask him what's in the newspapers worth worrying about, or, you know...

HUME: And he'll say, nothing?

BUSH: No, he'll say something.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 06:38 AM
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3. Doesn't matter. The whitewash is in the works.
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 06:38 AM by Atman
The death toll is 197...we saw more than that die live on teevee in the first days of his headlight-staring. Now we're talking about a "lower Manhattan-style" redevelopment board being formed, Mardi Gras back on in 2006, everything is wonderful -- except for those crazy democrats in charge.

We're fucked. We saw a few days of the press pretending they had balls. Now they're just back to sucking Bush's dick.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:06 AM
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8. Negligent Homicide..........
was just mentioned regarding the owners of the nursing home where they recovered x number of dead bodies; the attorney general of LA is filing this charge.

WE know *'s response is tantamount to negligent homicide, though I realize in the media's eyes it's a stretch to compare the negligence to evacuate the nursing home with this government's negligence in responding.

But still......just those words being mentioned....purrrrrrhaps it's a foreshadowing of more to come....hopefully being placed at the doorstep of the White House.
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graphixtech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:19 AM
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10. 911Truth.org - "It’s Not JUST New Orleans..."
It’s Not Just New Orleans That Needs Rebuilding
By Bryan Sacks
(more)
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050904221329705

So now, horribly, we know what it takes to stir disgust and outrage directed at the federal government, in the hearts of the corporate press corps. It takes a catastrophe of biblical proportions unfolding right before their eyes, right here in America, right in front of their cameras and camera crews, amid the stench of rotting corpses and a heaving mass of literally thousands of sick and dying.

Katrina’s aftermath has exposed the ‘most powerful country in the world’ as literally powerless to address the most basic needs of the most highly visible suffering people on the planet. This monstrous failure could literally be paradigm-shifting in its effect on the public consciousness.

(excerpt)
While the scope of the tragedy in New Orleans grows, its immediacy will make comparisons to past government-sponsored failures seem inappropriate, and that's understandable. But when enough time has passed, perhaps this colossal failure will enable the public to entertain the similarities between the Administration's failure to respond to Katrina, and its orchestrated failure, represented by the omissions and distortions of the 9/11 Commission Report-- to answer the questions gnawing at victims' family members and millions of other Americans for years now about the true scope of the attacks. The victims of Katrina deserved better, and likely thousands have died because of a cataclysmic failure to respond in time. There should be a full investigation and a complete accounting of the tragedy with consequences for failure and malfeasance. To our great detriment, that is exactly what has thus far been denied all citizens regarding the aftermath of September 11.

(excerpt)
The horror of Katrina's aftermath, even more than 9/11, may prove to be a monumental political turning point. We must work to ensure that, unlike with 9/11, it's a turn for the better. Getting the truth out, both about the scale and disproportionate impact of this tragedy as well as the facts about 9/11 cover-up, has never been more important. The dead and dying in the South, and the dead in New York demand it.


http://www.911truth.org/index.php
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 07:23 AM
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11. Yes, that is my hope...........
that in the coming weeks the pieces will start falling together now that the press has come alive (even if they appear to fall asleep periodically even now). I posted yesterday that we'll need a prime time special, coordinated between all networks, to lay out the lies and manipulations of this administration. It's so damn far reaching and can be extremely confusing. We need a flow chart of their crimes.
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