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IN-dem Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:03 AM
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Has anybody seen this?
New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin and Louisiana governor Kathleen Blanco refused President Bush's pleas to declare an emergency in Louisiana before Hurricane Katrina struck.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/katrina/nagin.asp
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:06 AM
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1. Thanks. This makes it very clear.
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:08 AM
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4. utterly transparent. n/t
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:07 AM
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2. And upon his rejection at the hands of Nagin and Blanco...
...bush, said, "Aw, fuck it." And went back on vacation.

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IN-dem Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:09 AM
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7. If you look closely at the picture of bush playing the guitar
it looks like a FORKED tongue coming out of his mouth!!!! hahaha
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:07 AM
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3. That's a lie.
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 01:08 AM by lindisfarne
Friday, August 26
GOV. KATHLEEN BLANCO DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY IN LOUISIANA
http://www.gov.state.la.us/Press_Release_detail.asp?id=973
Timeline at
http://www.thinkprogress.org/katrina-timeline
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:09 AM
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5. I think that is the point of the whole post. Read the Snopes link they
provided. And chill out.
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:20 AM
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9. I did read it. I realize what the OP was saying. But it's still a lie. :)
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:09 AM
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6. That's right
Snopes proved that to be a lie. This was posted the other day, but thank you for knocking down that RW talking point again. :hi:
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:19 AM
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8. How much will you bet that this was planted?
call me paranoid.
I am willing to bet they have a whole fleet of youngsters -- early to mid 20-something college republicans start this shit and send it to everybody they know.
they are capable of ANYTHING.
Bush lied to take us into a bloody, costly war.
IN view of that, can you think of anything Bush would NOT lie about?
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SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:22 AM
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10. click the link. eom
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:41 AM
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14. yep. i did.
actually saw this yesterday. sent my blood pressure up then, too.
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SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:23 AM
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11. There are actually freeptards who are still saying this is true.
Edited on Mon Sep-12-05 01:24 AM by SofaKingLiberal
Thanks,;-)
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:31 AM
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13. there are freeptards still saying we found WMD and Saddam and
Osama were in it together.

Creating their own reality and then being dumb enough to believe it. amazing.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:43 AM
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15. Freeptards and truth don't really go together. It's more like a
collage of talking-points, short sentences and a make-believe la la land.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:29 AM
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12. Typical Repuke garbage: Blame everyone else while saying, "now's not the
time to point fingers"

THIS IS THE NATIONAL RESPONSE PLAN...um...Joke.

BACKGROUND
The National Response Plan (NRP) applies 'to all Federal agencies that are requested to provide assistance" or are delegated responsibilities under the plan. The plan itself "establishes a comprehensive national all-hazards approach to domestic incident management across the spectrum of action including prevention, preparedness, response, and recovery."

On August 26, 2005, President Bush declared a "State of Emergency" in Louisiana. A day later he did the same for Mississippi. The hurricane hit on August 29, 2005. THREE DAYS LATER.

His declarations made Hurricane Katrina an "Incident of National Significance." The NRP defines an Incident of National Significance as:

an actual or potential high-impact event that requires a coordinated and effective response by and appropriate combination of Federal, State, local, tribal, nongovernmental, and/or private-sector entities in order to save lives and minimize damage, and provide the basis for long-term community recovery and mitigation activities.



This categorization, as you will see, becomes CRITICAL as it imposes upon the President and his administration unique powers and responsibilities under the NRP. During that time, from the instant the Hurricane was labeled an "Incident of National Significance" until the second it made landfall, the President and his administration had THREE DAYS WORTH OF RESPONSIBILITY under the NRP. Their duty under the plan obviously still continues.

RESPONSIBILITIES OF STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS

The "basic premise of the NRP is that incidents are generally handled at the state and local level." (NRP, 15). However, the plan specifically recognizes the possibility that the FEDERAL government bears primary responsibility:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4668155&mesg_id=4668155
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 01:58 AM
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16. This is a preemptive mass email people!!!
Here is what I wrote at the beginning. And remember I am FRAMING!


We have to nip these things in the bud. Besides it is a great opportunity to tell people the truth about this fiasco.

Please kept this kicked so we can get some momentum going. Thanks



Subject: "Watch out for this hoax"

"I imaging this hoax is going to circulate across the net so I am sending the debunking of it before I actually get one in my mailbox. This hoax is cruel to the local officials who have suffered so much because of Katrina. It is cruel to the local police, firefights and the others heroes that fought against tremendous odds to help their fellow. It also gives people a false sense of security by making people believe the disaster in New Orleans was local government’s fault rather than the Federal Governments. Please forward to all who deserve to know the truth."
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IN-dem Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:25 PM
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17. My uncle e-mailed it to me
Thats why I went to snopes to check it out. I sent snopes to my uncle and he still says that he believes it.
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:36 PM
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18. So does my sister
presented with the facts, she STILL would rather blame the mayor and governor than the president. Is there an intevention program for this?? We don't speak anymore.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 09:39 PM
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19. Already debunked. Nothing to see here. Move along. n/t
n/t
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:29 PM
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20. I sent it all over the place.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 11:31 PM
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21. Yes, and your link proves that it is false.
Right wingers are good with disinformation.
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