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Stinky Bushes Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:28 PM
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Stinky Bushes Revealed: Confessions of ANOTHER Former Freeper
Edited on Sun Sep-11-05 07:52 PM by Stinky Bushes
It was a typical gray late November afternoon when my wife and our two friends decided to take a Sunday drive down Masachusetts Ave. on into DC. Upon entering the area of Embassy Row, we noticed something going on. Two large groups were picketing on either side of the street across from gates of the Naval Observatory (Vice President's residence). We noticed that one group was enthusiastically bearing "President Bush" signs, and we were curious. "Let's see what's going on," I said. So we turned around and hung a right up an Embassy Row sidestreet and parked the car up the street.

As we walked down to the group, we began to hear chanting. "Get out of Cheney's house! Get out of Cheney's house!" the group yelled. "This is what Democracy looks like," the other group countered.

The pro-Bush group we joined up with seemed friendly, and seemed to be smiling and having fun. We greeted some people, grabbed some signs, and hopped to it. One of my most hilarious memories is when a limo full of Chinese tourists pulled alongside us on Massachusetts Ave, were laughing hysterically, and took pictures galore!

But I was content holding my "Gore: Abortion on Demand" and "President Bush" signs. The other group, as far as I'm concerned, was immoral for voting for a candidate who promotes abortion, homosexuality, and "earth worship" (many conservatives deride folks who actually care about the environment).

As the days passed, my wife and I would frequent the Republican group. Our group was interviewed on the news, and TV cameras abounded. One day, the ostensible leader of the group was giving instructions to the group and telling them to keep order. I believe he had on a T-shirt that read, "Free Republicans." I didn't know anything about that group at the time, but I just knew they were Republican and that was enough for me.

One day, after a protest broke up for the evening, I remember one Free Republican guy who stood there, taunting the remaining Democrats and saying all manner of nasty things towards them. I was pretty shocked about it all. I didn't really say anything to the guy because of protocol, but I have always kicked myself for not doing so.

Fast-forward to 2001. As we saw those planes hit the Twin Towers on 9/11, I like many others knew immediately we were being attacked. I heard Bush try to convince the country that Iraq had WMDs, Bin Laden/Al Queda was a threat, Saddam needs to go, Iraq was trying to aquire uranium from Niger, Iraq has stockpiles of chemical weapons that could be smuggled into the U.S., Iraq has drone planes that would spray cities, etc. etc. etc. and agreed with him.

In March 2003, Bush came on the airwaves to announce that major military action has been taken against the Saddam Hussein regime who was ostensibly a threat to our national security, had links to terrorism, and had WMDs. Quite honestly - and I hate to admit this - I felt a certain morbid excitement about it all. I supported this war and was glad to see Saddam go. I believed Rumsfeld's claims that we bombed with precision and accuracy, and it was "humane."

A couple of months after the war began, Bush triumphantly flew in on a Navy carrier and boldly proclaimed, "Mission Accomplished." He said that major combat operations were over. The country applauded Bush and went onto the task of securing and rebuilding Iraq. Or so we thought.

2002 still found both my wife and I jobless. I had lost my telecom job in early 2001 and we had just moved to a new city. One day in our exercise room, I heard Bush on TV. "The economy is strong and getting stronger," he claimed. I turned around and said, "Yeah right - we can't even find jobs, and the economy is getting BETTER?"

This was THE TURNING POINT for me. I knew this was a lie. I felt betrayed; slapped in the face. Then I found out that Bush was a free-trade globalist who advocated the outsourcing of jobs. That infuriated me. And in 2004, the official White House stance on outsourcing was that it was "good for the economy." I was LIVID. Here we were, trying to find jobs that had actually gone overseas, and this man is telling us the economy is great, jobs are plentiful, and everything is rosy peachy easy.

Beyond this point, I began to question Bush for everything. I read books, including "Worse than Watergate" by John W. Dean. I studied up on Bush's Saudi connections. I researched his positions on the issues of the day, including his CEO background and his former companies, his DUI, his insider trading, his family connections, and more. I saw Fahrenheit 9/11. And most importantly I discovered that Bush had studied the Christian Right carefully and thoroughly, including its core beliefs and its lingo, during his father's campaign during which he went AWOL from the National Guard.

Ah, the Christian Right. Like sleepers in a sleeper cell, Christians across the nation were awoken to action the day then-candidate Bush, in answer to the question "Who is your favorite philosopher and why," said during the 2000 Presidential debates, "Jesus, because he changed my life." Non-Christians didn't know what that meant, but Christians knew all too well what it meant. And it was in that moment that George W. Bush secured his base. From that day forward, Christians would do anything for this man and support him even if he told them to hop off a cliff. And as much as I try to warn these folks, they refuse to listen and refuse to see George W. Bush for the deceiver he is.

In 2004, I was so sickened by Bush and his deception that I voted for Kerry. But it wasn't for that reason alone. I REALLY respected Kerry. I saw him as intelligent, honest, forthright, well thought-out, and well-spoken. His debating skills are impeccable. To me it was no contest. Kerry had all the experince in Congress, even being very well versed on matters on intelligence - and truly BLEW AWAY BUSH in every respect. He BLEW AWAY BUSH in every single debate as far as I'm concerned. And TO THIS DAY I truly - and this sounds corny - I truly get a lump in my throat when I think about it. THIS MAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUR PRESIDENT.

Well folks that's where I'm at. I've gone from whoopin' it up with the Freepers and protesting for Bush to hating everything Bush stands for and lobbying for his immediate impeachment. But I am happy where I'm at now. And I have learned one valuable lesson - Democrats truly do care about America. And for that I am grateful.
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Rude Horner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:31 PM
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1. Welcome to DU, Stinky Bushes!
Excellent post. Nominated and kicked for the front page! Glad to have you on our side and a member of our community. :hi:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:32 PM
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2. A very nice post :-)
:toast:

:-)
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:32 PM
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3. Thanks for sharing that. :^) Have you alaso read
Greg Palast's "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy"?

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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:32 PM
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4. I believe the question you reference from the 2000 debates was:
"Who is your favorite philosopher?". That probably explains why his answer was, at the very least, goofy. And many have speculated he couldn't name a philosopher, which is why he went the "Jesus route."
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:36 PM
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8. Yes, you're exactly right...it was "philosopher"...
:D
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:33 PM
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5. Hats off to ya. Thanks for sharing that
on this day of rememberence. If only more of America could wake up to the lies.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:35 PM
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6. Hi!
I'm glad you finally came to your senses & joined our side. One major reason I am not a Republican is because they only seem to care about rich people. If only more average people would see that the Republicans are not for them. They have fooled a lot of people into voting for the party that screws them over every time.

Tammy
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:36 PM
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7. Welcome to DU & Humanity
The great thing about Kerry's debating skills was that Kerry wasn't even wired for sound like junior. Cheating couldn't help him.

Amazing!
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:36 PM
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9. You might want to fix your timeline, Iraq war was in 2003.
Welcome to DU! :hi:
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:38 PM
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10. Welcome to DU
:hi:

Bush is pissing off one group after another. To you it was outsourcing jobs.

After NOLA and FEMA,,, IMHO there are a lot of new former Repug voters in Miss. and LA.

A lot of new Dem seats in 2006, IMHO....
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:40 PM
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11. Wow, very well written and thank you so much for sharing!!!
:toast:
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joanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:41 PM
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12. Nominated!
Thanks so much for sharing your story with us. :toast:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:41 PM
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13. I don't buy it for a second
I do not believe ANYBODY can alter their political opinions that much that quickly.

I don't buy it.
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:43 PM
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17. Are you serious?
Why don't you buy it? Why would the guy be here on DU? Just to fuck with us?
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:44 PM
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18. Yup, that's precisely my thought
I don't buy it for a second. My bullshit meter is pegged.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:52 PM
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25. What does he have to gain by lying? Nothing. Leave him alone.
:spank:
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:56 PM
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29. Big laffs?
Wouldn't be the first time. We'll just to wait and see.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:11 PM
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42. Whoops
Banhammer has been swung.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:00 PM
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34. He has shitloads to gain
Sorry, there are web sites dedicated to nothing but the disruption of this site.

Again, I don't buy it for a second. NOBODY changes their political philosophy that much that quickly. It just does not happen. Only middle of the roaders who basically split their ballots between parties are swayed.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:05 PM
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36. Agreed.
I'm quite skeptical.

But I would give him a shot. We'll see what he posts.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:07 PM
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37. I remain skeptical
And probably always will.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:11 PM
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41. Look at his profile. n/t
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:53 PM
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26. Didn't he just post another post very similar to this one a day or two ago
my bullshit meter went off too
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:00 PM
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33. I did a 120 degree turn in my political beliefs in 18 months.
Edited on Sun Sep-11-05 08:01 PM by Zynx
Notice I did not say 180, but I went from being far right to center left in a period from early 1999 to the middle of 2000. It was brought about by an event I would prefer not to talk about, but also the fact that I had a very negative reaction to George W. Bush's personality and his exploitation of religion.
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:41 PM
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14. Kicked and nominated!
I almost cried reading your story. Thank you so much for sharing and welcome to DU..
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:42 PM
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15. Thanks for telling your story...
and kudos to you for having an open mind and taking the initiative to research, recognize the propaganda and make up your own mind. That speaks volumes about you.

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justiceischeap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:42 PM
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16. Belated welcome and a sincere question
Edited on Sun Sep-11-05 07:53 PM by thecorrection
Why did you not research him that thoroughly prior to 2000?

There was so much information about Shrub's incompetency available prior to the first election. I can remember, and I was just talking to friends about this last weekend, telling people in 1999 and 2000 that if Shrub was elected, because of his oil ties, that we can expect gas prices to sky rocket and that's just one example from info available.

I am trying to understand why it is people do not investigate every candidate that runs thoroughly. Just because they have a D,I, or R beside their name doesn't mean they are good for this nation or that they should be trusted, 'cause most of them, if not all, shouldn't be.

And again, welcome. I'm glad to see you've realized this man is not good for our nation.

(edited 'cause I removed the word "in")
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:50 PM
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22. call me cynical...I don't buy it either..
don't get me wrong, IF it is genuine, by all means, more power to 'em. I have noticed quite a few of these "former freeper" stories of late....and while I would like to belive that some people's blinders are FINALLY falling off, most of them strike me more as some freepers idea of a joke, or thinking that they are infiltrating the other side....or maybe they are clever DU'ers attempts at fiction to TRY and convince those on the other side to join the good guys.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:12 PM
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43. i think it's more like freepers idea of
taking advantage of how warm and welcoming dems/liberals can be :eyes:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:46 PM
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19. welcome to DU
Stinky Bushes
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:49 PM
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20. Awesome Stinky!!! The truth shall make you free.
:applause:
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:50 PM
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21. Nominated and welcome to DU
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:51 PM
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23. (((HUG)))). All we really have,...is eachother.
Edited on Sun Sep-11-05 07:51 PM by Just Me
We are not only Americans being abused, we are a member of humanity that has been abused by these same corporacrats.

It's not just Democrats involved in this united fight for justice,...we are in this, together. I am an humanitarian with no loyalty to political affiliation,...but rather a passion to unite against those who abuse humanity.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:51 PM
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24. The Lesson: Getting Bush loyalists to question him is 1st and hardest part
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:54 PM
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27. hmmm
"I believed Rumsfeld's claims that we bombed with precision and accuracy, and it was "humane."

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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:55 PM
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28. We have all the facts on our side
When someone honestly looks at the actual facts, as you did, they'll find it hard to believe any more in the * adm. lies.

I used to be a Repub, too, because of being born into it--but as soon as I began to think for myself, I switched. It feels great to feel proud of my party!
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:56 PM
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30. I believe you, Stinky- and my mama didn't raise no fool...
...anyone can see the light- especially after the Fates have kicked you hard in the ass.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 07:57 PM
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31. I applaud your thorough investigation and weighing of the issues
and circumstances, SB. You made yourself an informed citizen. Whatever party you choose, you are choosing it with care and diligence, and that's the best any of us can do. Welcome to the DU Forum, and thanks for your TESTIMONY.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:00 PM
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32. Another defector. Welcome to DU!
I think you'll find DU a much more agreeable place to hang out. Well, sometimes. ;)
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:05 PM
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35. Thank you for coming to DU.
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:09 PM
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38. Welcome, Stinky!
I just have to say that as you're here longer you might come to see that the real tragedy of GWB is that Al Gore wasn't elected President. John Kerry would have been good, but Al Gore would have been great.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:09 PM
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39. Great post! Maybe you can give some insight into a discussion
we've been having around our home regarding the loyalty of the Repub base and why they remain loyal in the face of all of the deceit and sheer incompetence of this administration.

First, why did you identify with the republicans in the first place?

Second, our theory on why the base remains loyal is that they are so wrapped up in fear of any thing that is outside their core values or "other", i.e. abortion, illegal aliens, gays etc. that they cannot question the ones that they feel represent safety and comfort or it would shake their foundations to the ground. Does this feel right to you?

I truly appreciate that earlier on you started to question the vitriol and then got curious about what your leaders were really up to and started to research them more thoroughly.

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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:10 PM
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40. well
considering this person has now been banned, i guess i can admit i knew it wasn't real all along :eyes:

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:13 PM
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44. I see by your tombstone you are a Dead Freeper
Guess my skepticism was well founded.

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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:13 PM
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45. Locking
OP has been banned
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