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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:54 PM
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God DAMMIT. PEOPLE: 80% OF THE PEOPLE IN NOLA WERE EVACUATED.
Only *20%* were left. You can't expect EVERY LAST PERSON to get out of New Orleans on such short notice. THERE WERE GOING TO BE PEOPLE LEFT BEHIND. A LOT OF THEM.

Nagin did what he could to save the people who stayed behind. STOP letting people like Whore Blitzer shift the blame.

I'm sick of this.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:57 PM
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1. That damn shifty blame
Hard to pin it down.

Problem is that people want to blame the 20% that stayed on the Republicans, but they keep shifing it back to Nagin.

We should just asking why 20% stayed go, and instead focus on what happened afterwards.

Be smart!
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:58 PM
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3. Except Brown is the only one that's been "reassigned".
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:57 PM
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2. And blaming the folks themselves is bullshit as well
I've been using the example that makes sense where I live, which is the tornado warning.

Many people never get ready the way they're supposed to when they hear of a tornado warning in the area. So does that mean we shouldn't take pity on them if they're caught in a tornado? Hardly.

Same difference. I'm sick of the race issue. I'm sick of the blame game from those who keeps saying this is no time for the blame game.

Right on Bullgoose!
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:58 PM
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4. Nagin and the people of NO did a great job with the evacuation
People really could only evacuate in a few directions and many of them did in a single day. Things broke down at the evacuation centers but people were transported there before the hurricane hit and I think it prevented a higher death toll when the levies broke and flooded houses.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:59 PM
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5. Being left behind and being ignored are two different issues
Being left behind is understandable under the circumstances... being ignored (By the Bush Regime)is inexcusable. Turning away those who tried to help is inexcusable.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:00 PM
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6. And those left behind are the poorest of the poor
I know some people, even those with cars, did NOT want to leave. But I wonder if we'll ever know how many would have left town that weekend if they had had the transportation to do so.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:04 PM
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7. Plus, Nagin did use school buses and city buses
However school buses have no bathrooms and usually don't have AC, so Nagin asked FEMA to send in touring type buses for taking the people out of NO. They knew that just to get to Baton Rouge would take at least 8 hours. Nagin only sent people to the Superdome has a shelter of last resort. FEMA could have easily brought the touring buses in to take the people out of the Superdome during the day before the storm hit, but they couldn't get the contracts worked out with the bus companies. Nice excuse.

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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:14 PM
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8. And the published plan suggested that only *60%* would be able
to be evacuated. So hey, he got 20% more out than the emergency planners had predicted.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:18 PM
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9. I mentioned this statistic to someone last night and she was impressed
At first, she had wondered if the mayor had done enough before the storm. When I mentioned that studies had indicated that the city would be lucky to evacuate 60%, but that Nagin had accomplished an 80% evacuation, she completely changed her tune. Before that, she'd been questioning the local response. After that, she acknowledged that much had been done by the locals and that the feds had failed. Miserably.

BTW, this is a former Junior voter. Not any more.
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Serial Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:19 PM
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10. I don't know how much more local government could have done!
There may have been some little mistakes made at the local level, but feel that getting 80% of the population out of NO was pretty good.

Their mistake was not having conservative estimate of 90,000 meals ready in the Superdome (15,000 people x 3 meals day x 2 days)... I am sure they were prepared for a 24 hour situation with the winds and rain of a hurricane and thought people could go back to their homes or leave the city in a day or 2, they could not prepare for the flooding and keeping that many people there for that many days.

The feds should have been ready to come in Tuesday morning when the levee's broke!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:19 PM
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11. The feds knew complete evacuation wasn't possible,....that,
,...an estimated 350,000 people would be left behind. That's why IMMEDIATE response was so important,...and they KNEW THAT!!!!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:21 PM
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12. THAT'S RIGHT. nt
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