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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:23 AM
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Crimes Against Humanity
Lets all be very clear on what we witnessed last week.

CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, COMMITTED AGAINST US CITIZENS, BY THE US GOVERNMENT, ON US SOIL.

For those new to DU or those who are lurking, here is a thread that documents through many mainstream, reputable news sources, much of the assistance that was turned away by FEMA, AS PEOPLE WERE DYING OF DEHYDRATION in New Orleans:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4660874

What is the response of the bush* administration? "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job."

I am outraged beyond belief over this. I will not be silent. I will write to the UN asking them to take action. This cannot be allowed to be swept under the rug. To all lurking politicians, take note. We are outraged and asking for "Brownie" to resign is not an acceptable response.

I demand that our elected officials protect us from the monsters that lurk within the White House.
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unsavedtrash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:25 AM
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1. I was thinking about that earlier. Is abject indifference covered under
crimes against humanity?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 AM
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3. What I saw was so much more than abject indifference.
Please read the link that I have provided. The federal government REFUSED to allow life saving aid to reach the dying.

I have served my nation, as has most of my family. This is not America.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:45 AM
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7. Not incompetence. Not neglegence. Not indifference. POLICY.
EVERYTHING about the bush pResidency IS FAKE.

They say and pretend to do one thing and in reality do something else -- not by accident, not by chance, not by incompetence or neglegence or indifference.

For them most everything is going as planned -- SO LONG AS WE AND THE MEDIA DO NOT CHALLENGE THEM ON THEIR LIES.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:26 AM
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2. It occurs to me, now that Saddam Hussein's trial is coming up,
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 12:26 AM by ocelot
that the next time I hear some freeper offer that deeply lame excuse for the Iraq invasion, that "Saddam gassed his own people," I will simply respond that Bush drowned his, and ask why shouldn't Bush be on trial, too?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:38 AM
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4. I am at a loss for words
My heart is on the floor.

For those who believe that this will just blow over, I say to them they are very wrong.
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:59 AM
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14. what about Africa
governments there kill their own people, but they're black and don't have any oil.............. The ironies are shocking aren't they?
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:51 AM
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17. Welcome to DU Ray
:hi: You're exactly right.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:39 AM
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5. The Butcher of New Orleans *.. Gutted FEMA, no one trained. resulted in a
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 12:41 AM by sam sarrha
operational procedure based on fear of those they were supposed to help.

this led to preventing ANY HELP AT ALL.. FEMA was afraid that if they helped anyone it would create a "HOT SPOT" that would result in a Riot. SO THEY PREVENTED ANYONE FROM DOING ANYTHING.

I am Furious, i am livid, i am sick at heart and cant get the pictures of those people out of my mind, dieing on roof tops and trapped in attics..huddled in the 107* sun... while all FEMA did was prevent their rescue.

FEMA was told to "Stand Down" for 2 days.. so they gave Emergency services "TRAINING" to their people.. The Head of FEMA had NO TRAINING AT ALL EVER.!!!

so who is this guy Brown.. some coke head drinking buddy of the Butcher of New Orleans*.. he apparently didn't have a job long enough to be a big Campaign Donor. I want to see him in Prison for Negligent Homicide.. in a cell next to that SACK OF PIG SH*T BU$H
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:44 AM
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6. They treated US citizens as though they were the "enemy"
I am furious.

This still does not explain why they did not air drop water & food to those who were DYING. :grr:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:48 AM
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16. it was reported they did drop water at the Dome, so high that it all broke
and no one got any water..

FEMA was afraid of a riot so they witheld all food and water, and evacuation.. there was the bridge on I10 but the sherifs blocked the road out with drawn shotguns.. they didnt want a New Orleans in their county.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:57 AM
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8. That wasn't negligent homicide, it was
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 12:57 AM by shraby
pre-meditated murder. They gave orders to withhold food and water and aid. Those orders came from someone who deliberated on them knowing what the consequences would be.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:15 AM
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9. Withholding humanitarian aid.
If it applies to prisoners of war, etc., then I don't know why it wouldn't apply in peacetime as well, especially to civilians.

A. FEMA was denying access to all sorts of rescuers and aid.

B. Three Duke University studeents were able to pose as members of the press and drive right in to rescue people. Said they could have made multiple trips.

C. The same Duke University students took video of a long line of empty school buses headed away from the disaster area.

And lots more.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:34 AM
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10. It IS a crime against humanity... so stated in letter to Congress members
(Thank you for the inspiration me b zola! :hi: )


Today I write with deep sorrow and intense outrage for what was done to the people of New Orleans. Untold numbers have died in New Orleans, not from Hurricane Katrina, but from the gross incompetence and criminal negligence of the federal government and the Bush Administration.

Mr. Bush has steadily cut funding for numerous vital programs and services throughout his presidency. He cut FEMA funding; funding for which the mayor of New Orleans begged in order to prevent the catastrophic aftereffects of a devastating hurricane such as the one that we have just witnessed. Much of the catastrophic aftermath, the catastrophic flooding, might have been averted had Mayor Nagin’s pleas not been ignored, had FEMA funding not been cut under this brutal Administration.

Much of the horror occurring as a result of the catastrophic flooding was entirely preventable. A US Naval ship, prepared to assist with fresh water, food, and medical assistance, followed Katrina to shore. It sat there waiting for orders that never came. FEMA repeatedly turned away aid and assistance. FEMA turned away boats, busses, police officers, firefighters, rescuers, medical assistance, food, and water in too many separate incidents to count. Water and food assistance were withheld until Mr. Bush arrived, five days later, for a photo-op. That is criminal. It is a crime against humanity.

The failure of FEMA and Homeland Security, the agency under which it works, is well documented. Mr. Bush’s failure to fire the parties responsible for untold deaths is criminal negligence. While the people of New Orleans were suffering and dying in a living hell, Mr. Bush attended a birthday party, strummed a guitar, played golf, made political speeches, and made a stop to sell his agenda. It wasn’t until Mr. Bush began to feel the political heat that he shortened his vacation by one day. One day. Meanwhile, our fellow Americans were dying.

Mr. Bush has historically refused to fire those under him who exhibit gross incompetence; instead, he promotes them and honors them with medals. During the catastrophic aftermath of Katrina, Mr. Bush affectionately patted Michael Brown on the back, saying "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." Such a remark to a man responsible for the deaths of hundreds, possibly thousands, of our fellow Americans, so many of them poor and black, might be expected from a grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. It is reprehensible that our president would utter such a grievous insult.

We must have an independent criminal investigation, as well as a Congressional investigation. But first the safety of our nation and its citizens must be secured. The evidence that we are not in capable hands is overwhelming. Our national security depends on strong and competent leadership, leadership that does not currently exist in our Executive Office.

I urge you, I beg you to use your voice to force the immediate resignation or impeachment of the entire Bush administration.

I look forward to your response.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:39 AM
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11. Beautifully said, Sapphire Blue.
I need to write similarly. Not that any of the three repugs representing me will pay any attention, but I will have my say.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:47 AM
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12. The inspiration came from me b zola's letter to Congress...
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:49 AM
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13. You made that a powerful statement
Lately, there is so little that gives comfort. Thank you for understanding, thank you for standing with me. :hug:
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:11 AM
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15. We have power in truth and strength in numbers...
... and I proudly stand with you. :hug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:56 AM
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:07 AM
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19. Enjoy your stay at DU!
For some reason, I have a feeling it's gonna be a very short one.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:17 AM
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20. Posting from Iraq, I presume?
FightinForDixie...pfft. You rightwing assholes are the most PC muthafuckers on the planet. Speak your true feelings proudly, hombre -- you dig the hell out of seeing dead nigras. Don't hide behind "Southern Pride" and "States Rights" bullshit, be a two-fisted American humdinger.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:07 AM
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21. We want answers! No, we DEMAND answers!!!
Thanks, I see it exactly as you do. We all need to remember - It's the BODIES, stupid!!
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:01 AM
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22. kick
:kick:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:13 AM
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23. More proof that what occurred in New Orleans was a crime(s)
From the WH press release: BUSH DIDN'T MOVE TO PROTECT NO AT ALL!:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4694468

From a official White House press release, bush's* pre-Katrina's declaration of of emergency did not cover New Orleans or any of the areas that were expected to take the brunt of the storm in LA.

This is a must read. This is highly damning and we must get this word out.
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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:59 AM
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24. Absolutely correct.
There can be no compromise in how this is represented. Moreover, we must be on the OFFENSIVE, and make it loud and clear that anyone attempting to cover up crimes committed is fully complicit in those crimes and a deadly enemy of our country and her people.
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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:42 PM
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25. Pay attention, people!
n/t
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