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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:18 PM
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Brian Williams on TDS. He is really pissed.
Really blasting the bushites.
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:20 PM
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1. "Ted Koppel had at him ('Brownie') like a pinata."
hahahah!
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:20 PM
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2. He's done some great reporting through this...
I hope it continues.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:22 PM
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7. Nothing like smelling the stench, seeing the bodies, hearing the cries.
Can this press corps be saved?
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:21 PM
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3. So maybe he can carry that over into his newscasts
Until I see that hes just another corporate whore carrying water for the corporate agenda.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:25 PM
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12. Exactly.....same thing with David Gregory NBC and Terry Moran of ABC!
They are pit bulls when questioning Scotty McClellan at the White House press briefings and then they just bland it down when their reports go on the nightly newscasts....
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:21 PM
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4. He's totally different than what I used to think.
I used to think he was some corporate robot, but last week and tonite is blasting that away. He may well be the "Walter Cronkite bringing down LBJ".

Between him and Ted Koppel and Anderson Cooper, Bush is toast.

I think I will start watching NBC News much more often.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:22 PM
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5. This is very good!!!
yes, he is.

Riveting story.
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ailsa Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:22 PM
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6. Did these guys use to be shills? Or were they "somewhat" honest
about reporting the news? I've been so out of touch with MSM
that I consider them all to be GOP mouthpieces. But perhaps
that is changing.

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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:26 PM
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16. BROKAW was the biggest network shill.
Brian Williams is so much better.
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ailsa Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:27 PM
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19. Dan Rather was pretty honest, eh?
And Peter Jennings.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:29 PM
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23. what exactly is your point?
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ailsa Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:32 PM
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26. No particular point except I'm remembering a few of the MSM
anchors were less "shillish" than others.

P.S. I'm ailsagirl, writer of 1000+ posts...
I can't log in as ailsagirl so I had to create
a new profile. :(
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:33 PM
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28. bwahahahahahaha
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 10:35 PM by CatWoman
never mind :D

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ailsa Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:36 PM
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32. I loved that-- Gilda was so talented... :=(
The original SNL (probably way before your time) was truly
fine!!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:41 PM
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38. HA!!
I turn 50 in November :D
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ailsa Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:46 PM
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43. Awww, you're just a baby. Life begins at 50!!
Truly.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:05 PM
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46. Can I say "HI" -- from another over 50.
Aint this something? Can you IMAGINE having a comedy like "TW3"?

Do you remember that? "That Was the Week that Was"? I can't rember any of the details and very possibly now I would find it completely politically incorrect. But I recall at the time (I was in high school) it would have me ROLLING on the floor with laughter. They loved to make fun of JFK and Jackie but, as I recall it, it was always wittily done.

That was in the good old days before the assasination and before we began to learn just how UGLY the structures of political power in this country can actually be. They have MURDERED SO MANY PEOPLE since then and now it appears they are getting ready to murder us all. Not exactly a surprise, is it? They've been threatening this, one way and another, all our lives. Keeping us in a perpetul state of paranoia (even when we weren't really thinking about it). ALWAYS something to be afraid of. Communists. Long hairs (of which I was one). Blacks on drugs. Terrorists. Now they've even cut mother nature into the act.

I wonder what else they have up their sleves for us?
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ailsa Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:12 PM
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47. My mom loved TWTWTW-- English program, yes?
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 11:12 PM by ailsa
We can't think about what the neocons have up their sleeves.
I've been there and regretted it mightily. One's mind can go
a little crazy thinking about their motives and agenda.

I have become so fear-based in the past few years-- big
surprise!! It can take me over if I'm not careful. I'm
learning how to "tune out" when it's a matter of my sanity.
Then take their latest outrages in small, very small, doses.
It's been a lifesaver, believe me.

:)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:51 PM
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44. Ahhhh.... 1955 - A Great Vintage.
:evilgrin: The year I hit puberty... and "discovered" Janet Pilgrim.

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:54 PM
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45. *HIC*
:D

:hi:
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:36 PM
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31. I prefer Williams over Brokaw
Brokaw always struck me as a conceited snob.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:28 PM
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21. Pray they realize there is safety in numbers

if they all speak the TRUTH for a change, ROVE will have a harder time getting to any of them.

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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:29 PM
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24. The press proves Bob Dylan correct
"You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows."

Consider the press to be another arm of the government, and always running for reelection.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:37 PM
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34. That's what I wonder
I've seen him on the Daily show before on the old set and he was okay. I didn't like him at first. I haven't watched MSM either. I mostly get my news from here and a few blogs I've learned to trust.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:57 AM
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51. Hi ailsa!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:22 PM
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8. Telling it like it was (no censorship).
He mentioned having "Brownie" on his show, grilling him about things he should have known about. He said "By the time Ted Koppel got through with him he was nothing but a pinata."
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:23 PM
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9. This is an Excellent interview. eom
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:23 PM
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10. any thing in particular?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:24 PM
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11. no....he's NOT....not pissed enough to give a simple opinion
dick
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bmcatt Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:27 PM
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17. I disagree
I think he's trying to retain his credentials as a reporter vs. an editorialist. Given what he was saying about how bad it was in NO, I don't think he needed to add his opinion on top of that.

Let's just hope that he remembers (going forward) to keep his apparent sense of outrage and keeps being willing to ask "tough" questions.
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bdot Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:27 PM
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18. Well as a journalist,
he's supposed to just supply facts and not opinion.

Nothing wrong with avoiding that question. He let Jon answer it perfectly fine.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:30 PM
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25. I never expected an opinion from him
Some won't give their opinion no matter what...but I do think he did give it in between the lines.

The fact that he said places like Nantucket and Boston would have gotten help much faster says a lot.

Just because he doesn't say 'bush is (insert personal choice here)' doesn't mean he isn't thinking it. Some I don't expect to give their opinion and I don't think people should expect it, either.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:41 PM
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37. like bernard goldberg? I know you all are mostly right, but I definitely
remember his being very opinionated under supposedly seemingly neutral journalistic circumstances

I realize that he couldn't come out and give a baldfaced opinion; yall are correct about that, but I'll admit my bias toward him, and wasn't willing to give him much of a break at all

I'll accept his words tonight, but let's see if they have any effect on his future, realtime "journalism"

anybody care to take any bets that he begins toeing the line of NBC/GE's new boss, as outlined in the LA Weekly story somebody started a thread about tonight?

pretty scary stuff

I hope I'm wrong, believe me, but Williams, like most of the other socalled journalists, has built up to deep a pile of excrement for me to trust them as far as Dick Cheney could sprint up Pike's peak carrying the prestapled Al Roker.

just remember: NBC: Wright/Welch/new guy just as bad as Welch
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:07 AM
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52. He stopped short of giving an opinion, but made it very clear
that he had an opinion on the matter.

As one who remembers Walter Cronkite's objectivity, I also remember that Cronkite made it clear he had an opinion, he just rarely expressed it.

I welcome the return of the objective media.
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:25 PM
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13. He got really close to blaming Bush...
"Had this been Nantucket..."
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SW FL Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:26 PM
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14. Had this been Nantucket
the response might have been different. Great show!!
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:26 PM
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15. He *is* blasting Bush... with the facts...
as long as he reports the facts, he's Bush's Public Enemy #1.

Go Brian!
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:28 PM
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20. They should be pointing out that the moron (Michael Brown) who is the
cause of all the mess at FEMA, WAS CHOSEN BY GEORGE W BUSH!
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:39 PM
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36. But..
Liberman seemed fine with his credentials when it came time for a vote. The Senate is culpable as well if they knew he had no background in emergency management, civil engineering, logistics, etc. that would qualify him for FEMA.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:21 AM
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48. Are you saying this takes Bush off the hook for chosing him?
The buck stops with Bush!
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:28 PM
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22. The tide has turned
It's time to rejoice, but never will it time to stop our attack on the morons in government. Karl Rove, Grover Norquist and others like them don't have any stories to try to spin about true incompetence. It's in front of the world's eyes for all to see.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:44 PM
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41. I wish I couldn't say I've heard that before
a few hundred times

*sigh*
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:32 PM
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27. He said, "Why is my daughter any different than theirs?"
That says to me that he realized that but for the grace of god there go I.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:42 PM
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39. Yes
I thought that was a great line.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:35 PM
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29. Good!
I saw the first part of the interview and you could tell he was pissed off. From what I saw he didn't blame the governor or the mayor but where I think blame was which is homeland security and fema. He also told how they got a notice on August 28th and all that.
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Bill219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:38 PM
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35. he even stated...
that Homeland Security was in charge during the Hurricane
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:36 PM
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30. America united. Doesn't it feel good?
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 10:38 PM by chookie
A bit that came out of the Nancy Pelosi/Kyra Phillips exchange (nice cat fight) today was Phillips opining that unlike Sept 11, which united America, Hurricane Katrina divided America along partisan lines.

I disagree, Nancy Pelosi disagreed, and I feel many here would support this view. We're hearing from all sorts of folks, with whom we may have had differences in the past, speak powerfully from the viewpoint we share regarding the pathetic response to the predictable tragedy in Louisiana.

I hope we can get something positive done with this accidental majority -- truly, we are all Americans.
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ailsa Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:42 PM
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40. I was thinking about it today-- what is DU all about?
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 10:44 PM by ailsa
It's comprised of people who truly care about this country
and who want what was wrested from us restored.

And we want to keep getting better and better. It's just
appalling how bushco has systematically dismantled all
that's dear to us.

I was listening to Franken today-- he was talking about the
bankruptcy law and how repugs were saying that those who were
devastated by the hurricane (those lucky enough to have survived)
will NOT be exempt from this new, utterly heartless, law that
will come into effect shortly. And Franken was saying, "WHY?"
And there's no answer except repukes think asking for help is
immoral. Even if it's not your fault it's "tough luck!!"

I just can't fathom that. I don't get it. Why so punitive????
Why so heartless?? And they are-- utterly heartless. Maybe not
all repukes, but most certainly the neocons. Chilling. Creepy.

:shrug:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:11 AM
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53. Philips is clearly a WH shill. George Bush has, to his credit, united
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 08:11 AM by blondeatlast
America--against his hidepous policies, procedures, politics which are antithetical to true conservatism, and cronyism.

Edit: typo
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:37 PM
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33. I tried to tell you folks that he was not as bad as people assumed
He'll never be like Keith Olberman, or an activist journalist of the Left, but he's not the right wing hit man that some of you have made him out to be.

Now some of NBC's reporters could be categorized that way. Lisa Myers, Andrea Mitchell. Ugh.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:45 PM
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42. He works for GE...
His boss is a right-wing shill....who brags about converting Tim Russert and Chris Matthews from Democrats to neo-cons....keep your powder dry.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:31 AM
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50. Keith Olbermann Works For GE Also & Openly Criticizes Shrub n/t
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:24 AM
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49. "it really IS a sense of martial law" n/t
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