Check out this map showing LA parishes covered by Bush's dec of emergency!

[StefanX]

Bush only covered the NORTHERN parts of New Orleans in his declaration of emergency!

He left out New Orleans!

He left out the coast, which is where flooding always happens!



What was he expecting, the hurricane would skip the coast and strike inland first?!?

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/07.html#a4850

[Catherine Vincent]

1. Does anyone have the red/blue map of Louisiana for the 2004 election?

We should compare it.

[bloom]

6. doesn't exactly match

but there might be some truth there.

[greenbriar]

2. this needs to be front page!!!

kick it and nominate it


this is fucked up

[goodhue]

3. debunked already

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4695649&mesg_id=4695649

[goodhue]

7. this map is of secondarily affected areas!!!

please use a little common sense folks

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4695649&mesg_id=4695649

[bloom]

11. Common sense would have had people

doing more rescuing from day one. Common sense would not have FEMA blocking the water that Walmart wanted to deliver.

People are just trying to make sense of the non-actions of evil people that will never make sense no matter how you try.

[Mistress Quickly]

13. I thought state homeland security

stopped all vehicles and agencies from going in?

Or am I hearing right-wing info again from co-workers?

[bloom]

15. Broussard:

"Let me give you just three quick examples. We had
Wal-Mart deliver three trucks of water, trailer trucks
of water. FEMA turned them back. They said we didn't
need them. This was a week ago. FEMA--we had 1,000
gallons of diesel fuel on a Coast Guard vessel docked
in my parish. The Coast Guard said, "Come get the fuel
right away." When we got there with our trucks, they
got a word. "FEMA says don't give you the fuel."
Yesterday--yesterday--FEMA comes in and cuts all of
our emergency communication lines. They cut them
without notice. Our sheriff, Harry Lee, goes back in,
he reconnects the line. He posts armed guards on our
line and says, "No one is getting near these lines."
Sheriff Harry Lee said that if America--American
government would have responded like Wal-Mart has
responded, we wouldn't be in this crisis.


But I want to thank Governor Blanco for all she's done
and all her leadership. She sent in the National
Guard. I just repaired a breach on my side of the 17th
Street canal that the secretary didn't foresee, a
300-foot breach. I just completed it yesterday with
convoys of National Guard and local parish workers and
levee board people. It took us two and a half days
working 24/7. I just closed it."

http://panzo.org/mboardarch/000783.html#more

[StefanX]

9. Sorry if this is a hoax -- I got it from crooksandliars.com

What's the status on this? If it's a hoax, has crooksandliars been informed?

I have no idea what parishes are where in LA.

[goodhue]

10. not a hoax, rather a misunderstanding

eom

[damntexdem]

17. Ok, I was right: it was contrived.

But appropriately so.

[Endangered Specie]

4. larger version:

[applegrove]

5. Perhaps there was another memo that dealt with the NO area? Do we

have all the memos?

[goodhue]

8. the map and memo relate only to secondarily affected areas

other parishes dealt with in other declarations

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4695649&mesg_id=4695649

[applegrove]

12. This has been debunked & welcome to the DU Stefanx !

:hi:

[jody]

14. This has not been debunked IMO.

Governor Blanco in her letter dated 28 Aug 05 identified:

Expecting major damage the following parishes:
Ascension, Assumption, Jefferson, Lafourche, Orleans, Plaquemines, St. Bernard, St. Charles, St. James, St. John, St. Tammany, Tangipahoa, Terrebonne, and Washington.

Expecting significant damage, the following parishes:
East Baton Rouge, East Feliciana, Livingston, Pointe Coupee, St. Helena, and West Feliciana.

Affected by evacuation, i.e. host parishes, the following:
Allen, Avoyelles, Beauregard, Bienville, Bossier, Caddo, Caldwell, Claiborne, Catahoula, Concordia, De Soto, East Carroll, Evangeline, Franklin, Grant, Jackson, LaSalle, Lincoln, Madison, Morehouse, Natchitoches, Ouachita, Rapides, Red River, Richland, Sabine, St. Landry, Tensas, Union, Vernon, Webster, West Carroll, and Winn.

But the WH press release of 27 Aug 05, the day before Blanco’s request, ignored all the parishes that were expecting major damage and most of the parishes expecting significant damage.

The second paragraph of the press release expands on the first paragraph by saying specifically, "The President's action authorizes the Department of Homeland Security, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), . . . . in the parishes of . . . ."

That clearly says the first paragraph pertains to the parishes listed in the second.

If the first paragraph covered parishes expecting major damage, then it would not be necessary to list parishes in the second paragraph.

The time line suggests the White House expected Blanco's letter and tried to preempt her by releasing an announcement the day before. Unfortunately, they messed up big time because Bush and company didn't know what was happening

The bottom line is the WH press release of 27 Aug 05 said * ordered aid to the parishes that needed it the least and ignored the parishes that needed it the most

[damntexdem]

16. It could be incompetence, but I think that it was ...

contrived, for some reason.

[Horse with no Name]

18. Unsure of why I am trying but...

First of all, refer to this document by Gov. Blanco.
http://gov.louisiana.gov/Disaster%20Relief%20Request.pdf
The areas in green are the parishes that were expected to receive major damage.
The areas in gray are the areas that were expected to suffer significant damage.
((these are the areas that the the WH and FEMA documents referred to as areas "in the path of the hurricane"))
The areas in red are the areas affected by the evacuation of others (secondarily affected counties)
((these are the parishes that are specifically named in the WH and FEMA documents))
IF they did not name these parishes INDIVIDUALLY because they were not directly in the path of the hurricane...then according to the Stafford Title Act V, they would not be eligible for federal funds.