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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:28 PM
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If John Kerry had been really clever...
...during the campaign he would have subjected himself to a voluntary independent psychological examination, then questioned why Bush would refuse to do so himself.

It is obvious that Bush is a sociopath, or at least has a severe neurological disorder. At the "Brownie" photo op I noticed his left hand shaking involuntarily.

I don't understand why his opponents don't demand clinical proof of his psychological unfitness for office.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:34 PM
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1. He wouldn't submit to his TANG physical over 30 years ago
Why would he allow his true health, physical and mental, to be disclosed now? We all can see for ourselves that he's a wreck. I think we should just get him on camera as much as possible so that the world can see that he's incompetent.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:37 PM
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2. He may be sicker than we imagine...
Mike Malloy is pointing to the Rawstory.com http://rawstory.com/news/2005/San_Diego_hospital_closed_to_acommodate_Bush_visit_No_ch_0906.html

Quote:"A newscaster commented on the President's wavering gait and noted that it was unusual for him not to pause to shake hands with well-wishers at the airport. The broadcast led to local speculation that the President may have encountered a medical problem."

Now, I think that he is truly not competent mentally to run the country, but now he may be physically unfit. Which scares me because Cheney is just as bad, if not more heartless. He didn't even stop house hunting til Friday or Saturday!
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:40 PM
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3. Wasn't * supposed to get a physical right after the 2004 elections?
Hmmm?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:41 PM
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4. I think so
I remember during the campaigning he was a little late on getting his physical. I never heard if they released the records but the doctors claimed he just gained a little weight from eating fast food and stuff.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:14 AM
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9. I heard he got one a few months ago, and that he's fit as a fiddle!
Now the 'fiddle' has to wear a tranceiver of some type, and has trouble with names, and often looks like he's about to start chewing the carpet...

But that's our boy! Go ride your bike, Georgie! (CRASH) Oooh, good thing you were wearing your helmet... Lucky Uncle Dick has the Rugrats band-aids in his portable heart shock kit!
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:20 AM
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12. I don't think that "wavering gait" implied sickness
I think he was drunk or high. Or in withdrawal because his vacation got shortened unexpectedly.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:43 PM
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5. If Kerry Was Clever


He would have NAILED harder on bush than he did right after the democratic convention and not stopped. Kerry should have gotten rid of his women C-Manager as well she cost him time and wanted him to play the softboy image and Carvelle and Bagela didnt do him any favors....

Kerry should have listen to the man who had guts that being John Edwards and fought the Ohio count and kept Ohio in the news for weeks.....

Lets get back to keeping on message about this craploaded administration and its coruption.....

Frankly the final way Kerry could be clever is to ask for bush resignation and state that bush has not kept them safe as he said he would last year.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:44 PM
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6. Seems like *’s sickness is contagious.
It’s at least congenital in the GOP and has obviously spread to the DINOS or whatever nomenclature conservative/centrist Dems go by these days

Where is the Democratic outrage?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:46 PM
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7. There's nothing Kerry, Dean, Kucinich or any of them could have
done. The political blitzkrieg was well-planned and no resistance would have worked then. I think Kerry should come clean with us though as to why he folded so quickly. There is something there that hasn't been revealed.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 11:52 PM
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8. There was something strange about the primaries
Kerry was down the pack and bam next thing you know he is the nominee - I know they sabotaged Dean but I have always suspected something strange happened in that whole process and then when Kerry folded so easy I was even more suspicious - but we'll never know...
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:38 AM
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15. MSM has too much influence in selecting our canidates by building front
runner momentum in what seemed to me to be a very truncated primary process with a premature coronation apparently based on many under financed candidacies. It appeared to be a very shallow selection process without an opportunity for most voters to have a voice in an open and contested primary process. Iowa, NH and then Kerry rolling into the convention with Edwards campaigning for VP nomination.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:40 AM
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17. MSM tried to knock off Kerry early by hyping Dean and over-reporting his
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 10:40 AM by blm
actual support on the ground. Kerry could barely even get a report from corporate media even when the Firefighters union endorsed him.

Kerry alsways had more firm support on the ground in Iowa and NH, but the media had their Dean as phenomenon storyline and they pushed it heavily as long as they could get away with it.

When that support didn't come through in Iowa, the media made it all Dean's fault and hyped the scream as if to prove it was Dean, himself, to blame.

kinda sad that some hung their hats on corporate media hype and still hang onto their faux hook even today.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:38 AM
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16. Your problem is that you believed the corporate media hype when all along
the media was OVER-reporting Dean's support on the ground in Iowa and UNDER-reporting Kerry's support to try to sabotage his candidacy and dry up his funding. It was Kerry's campaign they tried to kill in 2003 by saying his campaign was dead for months, yet there were reports out of Iowa from the Dems there from back in Nov.2003 that Kerry's support on the ground was far stronger than what the media was reporting.

Dean and Trippi knew the real numbers and that is why they didn't challenge the results in Iowa.

Iowa is a caucus state. There are no machines counting the votes, only live people standing for a candidate.

Try examining why the media chose to misreport the actual support numbers in Iowa and NH during the primaries.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:31 AM
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14. Kerry's in 3 court cases in Ohio right now.
And I do believe he and Dean are targeting the 2006 Sec of State races for a reason - they put up smart, savvy candidates and get access to the machines and to those who program and operate them. Cam Kerry is likely running in Mass. I have no doubt there are methods to their maneuvers.

I believe they WILL prove definitively and PUBLICLY that the machines are easily manipulated.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:15 AM
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10. Amazing what a non-factor he's been since the election. Al Gore has a
much greater presence on the national scene than Kerry ever did or ever will have.
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 12:18 AM
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11. WHAT? I get nice form e-mails from John Kerry every week!
Sarcasmatron activated.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 07:24 AM
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13. Yeah, like when Kerry was working on IranContra and BCCI and trying to
grab the media attention away from Gore's more important dirty song lyric hearings. And then he compounds his temerity by exposing the illegal wars in Central America.

Kerry has never done anything for this nation and will never have the impact on history that our favored Dems will have.
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