I might get flamed for this but I got to ask

[yellowjacket7]

Does anyone here truly believe Bush wanted to be President out of his own choice, or was he just propped up by the Republican establishment because of his father and other connections? I always get the feeling by his persona that his heart really isn't in being the President. Some clues - his lack of curiosty (per Paul O'Neil confirmation on CBS), lack of his own original ideas (hence he stumbles when caught off guard), his at times odd facial expressions, he always looks forced when he speaks.
It's clear he has to be "handled" religiously by his advisors like Karl Rove, for fear of him "opening" up and exposing his true self. I've never thought of him as a happy president who enjoys his job.
My gut tells me he'd rather be in Crawford all the time than being in the White House.

Am I being delusional here?

[mcscajun]

1. He just likes the title and the perks...the job he totally hates.

But the BFEE needs Somebody up front for the image while the power boys work behind the scenes.

[JerseygirlCT]

21. Bingo nt

[yellowjacket7]

32. What is BFEE?

[rurallib]

33. Bush Family Evil Empire (I think)

[mcscajun]

37. You are correct.

BFEE == Bush Family Evil Empire

[Witchy_Dem]

39. Ayup. ITA

[JuniperLea]

2. Dysfunctional family issues

I'm sure he is trying to out-do Poppa.

I've never wished this on anyone before... but I wish this would all become too much for the Chimpster and he reverted back to cocaine and alcohol! Maybe that's why his minions keep him in the dark, to keep him from getting too stressed out.

[Lena inRI]

31. IMHO, B* has already been back on some drug. . .

to replace the dry drunk-cocaine cravings he continues to have.

My persistent question is this: Why did the PNAC radicals pick such a wreck for their puppet on a string? Why not McCain or most any other Repuke who doesn't have these addictive hangups?

Leads me to think this Bush Crime Family is truly demonic to insist on having dysfunctional B* represent them.

And Bushie himself . . .he doesn't fool me one bit. . .that nonchalance and religious palaver is all cover up for his demonic narcissism. . .wolf in sheep's clothing.

:evilfrown:

[applegrove]

3. The neocons were definitely looking around for someone they could

control. Ever since Nixon & before - they have been aching for their own man.

Remember Rove 'fell in love' with Bush in abou 1975. Then followed him around and cleaned up the vomit for a time.

[IMSA]

4. Just a figurehead

Bush isn't running this administration anymore than I am. He's just a figurehead.

IMSA

[Pharaoh]

5. no yellow jacket

you are right on.........

he is just a shill for the corporate elite,

but he is so stupid, he does'nt even have a clue..........


:dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:

[ret5hd]

6. he REALLY wanted to be baseball commissioner (nt)

[ClusterFreak]

7. Follow your gut.

He's the teenage boy who doesn't want to clean up his room....his mother nags him, and so....**sigh**...he reluctantly does it. That's George...doesn't want to end his vacation...but...***sigh***....America is losing a metropolis on the Gulf Coast...oh, alright...what do we need to do....geez.....

[childslibrarian]

11. Yup

I have a teenager. You are right.

[BlueStateBlue]

8. I have never believed he wanted to be president

and he's too stupid to realize that he isn't actually the man in charge.


Can you just picture Poppy, Dick & Co planning the coup? "I know, we'll put the kid in there, he won't know any better." What a *#(^@!# shame!

[lancdem]

9. I believe you're right

[cynatnite]

10. He's a prop for the most part

And he believes his own delusions.

That's what I believe.

[Alamom]

12. You're right

he's too dumb even if he did want to do the job...he's a puppet for the party.

[KitchenWitch]

13. That makes sense

Rove, et al needed someone they could control. They got someone they could control, but needs to be handled and briefed 24/7. Maybe in the future, they can pick their sockpuppets better.

[pinkpops]

14. Here comes the blind commissioner

They've got him in a trance
One hand is tied to the tight-rope walker
The other is in his pants

[dogday]

15. Being President , well it's hard, it's hard work nt

[Skittles]

16. yes, he actually wanted to be president

he is an arrogant, stupid deluded asshole who, as another poster pointed out, is dangerous because he actually believes he is a REAL president.

[Staph]

17. The Wrong Bush

Before or during the 2000 primaries, I seem to remember something about GHW and Babs being surprised that little Georgie was doing so well. Apparently the family plan was that Jeb would follow his dad into the White House, because Jeb was the smart one. Or did I dream that?

[kdmorris]

24. That was my understanding as well

I guess I should have read all the threads before I posted. I believe Molly Ivins was the one that spoke about Jeb being the one that was supposed to be President.

[Patsy Stone]

29. I just posted that,

it was always supposed to be Jeb. I don't know if they had to put someone in to fill the Clinton void, or what, I've always wondered.
I think that they thought that they'd wait for Jeb to be governor more than two years, never thought W would win, and have been managing him ever since as damage control.

[lumberjack_jeff]

36. It's just a competition.

The prize wasn't of his own choosing. He has a need to achieve more than anyone else in his family.

Winning the presidency was the goal. Governing is an unpleasant side-effect - except for the times when you get to persecute someone.

It's a great tragedy that the Bush family is known for politics instead of running fast-food franchises.

[WePurrsevere]

18. Actually I've always thought he'd much rather be "home" on his ranch...

doing his own "cowboy" thing, not being President or even Gov of Tx. IMO he is and always has been merely a puppet with the likes of Rove and Cheney pulling the strings and cleaning up the messes so they won't damage his delicate psyche.

The conflict I feel though is even if this were true... how can he can he exist so far out of reality and out of touch with humanity to think that ANY of the horrible actions he has taken are anything but heinous.. to which I can only surmise that he truly is a sociopath... perhaps a conditioned one but one none the less.

One of my biggest concerns still remains... what happens if/when he finally totally snaps and goes off the deep end? That thought scares me speechless and I keep praying to any Divine that will listen that he's out of office and safely back home long before this happens.

[Amonester]

30. I'd prefer to see him rot in some state prison for all the crimes

this lunatic has commited, commits, and will commit again than safely back home anytime (or make his "home" look like an International Jail...)

I have a dream.

[yellowdogintexas]

47. he sure looked more at peace with himself when he was

governor of Texas.

The difference is astonishing. I didn't like him then either of course but he just isn't the same guy.

snapping and going off the deep end isn't too far fetched to me

[mshasta]

19. the reptilans had tell him

what to do.....

[kdmorris]

20. I think they were going to groom Jeb

to be President. But Georgie got elected to Governor of Texas and Jeb lost his election bid for Governor of Florida in 1994 (against Lawton Chiles).

So, by the time 2000 rolled around, Jeb only had 2 years as Governor, whereas Georgie had 6 and was, therefore, more electable against Gore. I'm not really sure George cared about being President. He sure does love the perks of being a son of a Bush. The real "power" behind this president is Cheney and Bush I.

[Jade Fox]

25. You are correct. n/t

[tanyev]

44. I even remember reading that on election night the family

was so upset about Jeb's loss, that hardly anyone was paying attention to George's win. Bet that opened a few old wounds for the Chimpster. Also, Jeb had a few problems with the missus that could have gotten ugly in a presidential campaign.

[firefox]

22. No. He loves being pResident.

He would rather be dictator now that the power has gone to his brain cell, but the narcissistic bastard loves the attention of being pResident. He was chosen however by the PTB to usher in their agenda of privatization, cuts on tax collections for the wealthy, and perpetual war in search of world domination.

These powers actually propositioned him and he asked if they could guarantee that he would gain the nomination on the first ballot. Knowing that they had rigged the system over the last 25 years, they knew they could provide a war chest large enough that no Republican could stand in the way. Once assured he would get his nomination on the first ballot and accepting the neocon proposition, they flew in people to educate him on his role as the selected puppet.

That is how it happened- really.

[Individualist]

23. Have you ever heard of PNAC?

They're the power that controls puppet George.

[Darth_Kitten]

26. No, I don't think so.

The points you make, he does indeed seem like a puppet.

[Patsy Stone]

27. Nope, you're right.

It was always supposed to be Jeb, not W.

He'd much rather be on a coke binge at a baseball game or in Vegas with hookers.

[NightOwwl]

28. Before 9/11 no.

After 9/11 you betch'ya.

He just loves looking in the mirror and seeing the "war preznit" reflected back at him. :puke:

[ProfessorGAC]

34. He's Johnny Bravo

He fit the suit. The suit is empty, and he could keep it equally empty. He was put into place to be the miserable, coward, thoughtless and mindless puppet that they wanted.

Sickening.
The Professor

[cmf]

35. I thought it was common knowledge

that what he really wanted to be was ML Baseball Commissioner.

[Witchy_Dem]

38. I had a similar thought watching Fahrenheit 9/11 nt

[TheCentepedeShoes]

40. You're right on it, yellowjacket

I knew it the minute he "picked" Cheney for VP. I'm ashamed to say I was occupied before then with my own "other priorities" to notice what was happening.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

41. I agree with your impression. However, I think that, having been

recruited by Rove and Co. to the job, he likes the power and glory. And I disagree about Crawford, he'd probably just as soon be hanging out in some place like Highland Park in Dallas with rich white Southern fratboys like himself. Crawford is just a movie set that was purchased prior to election to make it look like he was actually some kind of Texan rather than a carpetbagging Yankee from Connecticut.

[KerryOn]

42. Yes, I truly believe that he wanted to be president....

It is very obvious that Bush likes to be in control, and likes the feeling he gets. It gives him a sense of power. He was a bully in High School, which should tell it all. He loves being in control, and loves the attention, and he thinks he knows more than he does. Thats why he struts around. "Hay look at me the most powerful man in the world." "Don't screw with me because I have the power to destroy you. In fact I have the power to blow you off he face of the earth. So when you address me you will address me as Mr. President. And don't you ever forge it".

Get the picture?
Sure he wanted to be president.

[Samantha]

43. Immediately prior to 9/11 Bush* got angry and threatened to go home

I do not remember exactly what he was in a snit about, but the article I read was in the Washington Post. It made me laugh out loud. I hoped he would not get his way and he would evacuate the Oval Office in favor of Crawford.

I believe this is one of the reasons he spends so little time in the White House. He hates it there; he's simply playing a role. I read also somewhere he's at the White House about 20 percent of his time.

If your thread is meant to ask is his heart in the job, the obvious answer is no, and neither is the rest of him 80 percent of the time. And in the remaining 20 percent of his time which is spent "on the job" only 10 percent of his being is alert and participating. Where the remaining 90 percent of him is during that 20 percent of his time has been the subject of much speculation here at DU for the last five years, with no definitive conclusion having been reached ....

[Obamarama]

45. Have you seen the movie The Hudsucker Proxy? If not, rent it.

The main character Norville Barnes is the perfect metaphor for George Bush, except the Barnes charachter is not evil, and Bush is.

Plot line is basically the board of a company wants to overthrow the company and loot it dry, but they need a dimwit sockpuppet at the helm of the company so they promote good ole' Norville Barnes to President.

It's a very clever movie by the Cohen brothers (Fargo) and Norville is played by Tim Robbins.

[dchill]

46. He wanted it bad enough...

to STEAL it - twice.

[mitchum]

48. He was the most "charismatic" front man that they could put out there

THAT should tell you something about the lack of charm amongst the neocons

[Sarojin]

49. He did cheer before invading Iraq

[MadisonProgressive]

50. Is this an illusion?