Hitler was one of the greatest speakers of the 20th Century

[mushroomhead]

Hitler was also a man with a mustache and he had a nice dog.

Does saying that mean I am pro-Hitler? Or pro-Nazi?

Of course not. It is simply a stating of facts and opinion.

No one was a more effective and energizing speaker than Hitler. Recognizing that does not make me or anyone else pro-Nazi or pro-Hitler.


COME AND GET ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[e-mail]

[Terwilliger]

1. heh

good luck!

[eileen_d]

2. Don't let the front door

hit you on the backside
when you leave...

[mushroomhead]

7. Why?

Let's debate it.

[eileen_d]

12. "Come and get me!"

This is not an invitation to debate.

[mushroomhead]

13. Sure it is

Come on, let's talk.

[not systems]

21. About what?

So like nazis what do you want to talk about.

Really I would like to know.

Are you a CA voter?

Who are you goint to vote for?

How will you vote on the recall?

Why do you like Arnie?

[mushroomhead]

25. My point is this...

Trying to slime Arnold is not the way to win. It is the way to lose even bigger.

Victory at ANY cost? Hmmmmm?

[Capn Sunshine]

28. when you do something bad

and someone reports it
they are "sliming " you.

That is what you are saying.

The medium or the message?

[mushroomhead]

38. Do you really think...

That this is the way to win the recall election? You're kidding right?

Do you REALLY think this is what the voters want to hear? You're still kidding right?

What we have here is the triumph of emotion over rationalism.

Davis should come out today and disavow this kind of sewage. It is his only, albeit slim, chance.

[not systems]

48. Davis did he has nothing to do with it.

You can't blame the Arnold is about to be
charged with sexual battery on Davis.

Arnold is one who uses his power and money to
but the governership so he can loot the state
for his buddies in the international white power
movement.

Expect state visits from Burliscone.

Expect state visits from Rupert Murdoch.

Who cares what voters want to hear if they
want to elect a puppet fascist the expect a
fight.

This is america we fight fascists.

[not systems]

33. Arnold is slime no need to try...

why do you defend the corprate puppet.

Why do think a person who aspires to be like Hitler
should hold office in this nation.

My grandfather fought fasism and nazism for
the red white and blue.

What do you stand for.

[mushroomhead]

62. Oh boy were gonna have a relative-off?

My daddy and two uncles (all dead now) fought Hitler too.

Arnold didn't say he aspires to be like Hitler. He was commenting on Hitler's considerable skill in motivating the masses and his considerable skill at gaining political power.

Do you deny that he had great skills in these areas? If so, then you don't want truth, you want partisanship.

[Corgigal]

3. Hitler

Also killed his dog because before he poisioned himself he slipped some pills to his pet first to make sure they would do the job.

[FDRrocks]

4. The part that got me.

What that Arnold admired "what he did with" his talent.

Hitler fed his nice dog a cyanide pill.

[mushroomhead]

5. There are two versions

One version says that he "did not admire what Hitler did with it".

Do you believe that Arnold is pro-Nazi?

[FDRrocks]

11. Really?

I could give a sh*t less. I don't vote in California. I've seen stuff here that says his dad was a nazi, and that he defended a nazi war criminal... Is it true? I don't know. Do I read it? Yea. Does anybody I really communicate with in daily life care about it? Nah.

Leaving his character out of it all, Arnold is not qualified to be a governor. That statement is pretty damning though, no matter how you look at it.

[mushroomhead]

19. And...

Besides cursing do you have anything decent to add to the debate?

[FDRrocks]

23. You asked a question I replied.

Thats how it works. RIP, I assume.

[mushroomhead]

27. What statement is pretty damning? n/t

[FDRrocks]

30. The one in your post.

Or

"I am not a crook"

Pick whatever you want.

[thebigidea]

24. bwahhaha

as if you want a debate.

[mushroomhead]

31. Well, I'm a lot closer than you are.

I say this sliming of Arnold is not the way to win. It is only the way to lose even bigger.

Davis would be smart to come out this weekend and call for an end to it. It's his only chance. His internals show that he is losing badly, in more ways than one I might add.

BTW I don't believe that you are a Democrat. The Democrats I know wouldn't engage in that kind of stuff.

[not systems]

36. Don't you believe in freedom of the press?

No one is sliming Arnold.

It is just the facts.

He is a on the board of a pro-fascist group
called USA English he is modern day suit wearing
racist.

Are you?

[thebigidea]

37. oh, that's rich

"BTW I don't believe that you are a Democrat. The Democrats I know wouldn't engage in that kind of stuff."

delicious. You show up admiring Hitler, and I'm the phony Democrat. Delovely!

well, seeing as the media have all but annointed Arnold... what say we slime further?

[absolutezero]

52. yes n/t

[madmax]

6. Hitler was insane.

[mushroomhead]

8. Agreed. So was Van Gogh

And numerous others throughout history

[not systems]

15. Comparing Van Gogh to Hitler make you

a person who can't tell a joke or make a point
other than you my friend are confused and not
long for this board.

[mushroomhead]

22. Gee, you don't make a lot of sense

What are you trying to say?

[not systems]

26. That you are...

trolling and will probable not stay here long.

Why do you love Arnold?

Why do you feel the need to defend him?

Who will you vote for?

[mushroomhead]

39. I don't love Arnold and..

I haven't defended him. I am attacking the kind of politcs that is being used against him. Or anyone else for that matter.

Davis has one chance. To come out and call for an end to it.

[not systems]

51. Who is using politics against him?

Davis no.

If the glove fits.

He admited he was a serial groper after
months of denial. And now he should be
believed on his flattering statements
about Hitler????

I have died and woke up in that world
were Hitler won the war.

In america Hitler is a no no.

If you are not able to see that this is
the real thing and Davis has nothing to do
with it.

Although I wish he did I love a fighter against Nazi lovers.

[Classical_Liberal]

9. You assume they don't know this is campaign zeal

it's easy to do. This is karma week. Can't say the republicans don't deserve, but it is kind of chilling.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

10. You still here?

Thanks for the support on the Hitler
things I said that I don't remember.
Pass the shrooms before the t'stone drops.

[mushroomhead]

14. Why are you here?

You're certainly not adding much.

Do you believe that Arnold is pro-Nazi?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

16. Also I dreamed about dictators and

things like that...
http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/08/12/schwarzeneger.ambition/

[AP]

17. So this is how it starts?

I'm sad.

[Classical_Liberal]

20. What starts?

?

[prolesunited]

34. Like a moth to a flame

:hi:

[thebigidea]

18. WRONG, sir... there is ONE man more effective and energizing

who is this one man some call a more effective and energizing speaker than Hitler?



ANTHONY ROBBINS.

good luck with that nazi o' yours.

[not systems]

29. cool!!!

great use of the new gropanator pic.

[thebigidea]

32. Gee, notice how you can't defend PRECIOUS HITLER against Tony Robbins

some nazi advocate you are.

I thought you wanted a debate?

Hitler MAY have gotten close to conquering Europe...

but did he have.., UNLIMITED POWER?



he did.

[maggrwaggr]

35. damn this is a fun thread!

I'm not joking.

that cracked me up.

You know what? Anthony Robbins is WAY more qualified than Arnold to be governor of any state.

Arnold, Gary Coleman, Mary Carey, they're all about the same intelligence level/qualified.

It's just stupid that anyone could even consider Arnie for governor. PEOPLE ARE DUMB

[thebigidea]

41. people may be dumb, but Anthony Robbins is MY GOD

But back to the business at hand:

HITLER: Started wars of aggression, invaded Poland on phony pretext.

ROBBINS: Wears dynamic headset mic to imply hands-off action.

[maggrwaggr]

60. Tony's taller and has better teeth.

gets my vote every time.

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[thebigidea]

43. And a very poor one at that.

Judges, how many points do we give him for the "arguing like a woman" type riff? Pretty out of place in 2003, huh?

But then, back to work:

ADOLF HITLER: Rumored to have one testicle.

ANTHONY ROBBINS: Rumored to have smooth, Barbie-doll like crotch area.

ADOLF HITLER: Subjugated a nation to his demonic will.

ANTHONY ROBBINS: In 1997 he was honored as one of the ten "Outstanding People of the World" by the International Chamber of Commerce, and has been called one of the great influencers of this generation.

I rest my case.

[thebigidea]

44. Defend Hitler against Robbins, you coward!

Hitler: DEAD.

Robbins: LIVE... WITH A PASSION!

[mushroomhead]

50. My life experience guides me

Or put another way "I live and breath"

[thebigidea]

54. Tony would've NEVER given up like you did - only LOSERS give up

Like your precious dahling HITLER. What a fuckin' quitter, man. Oooooo, the russians are coming... oooo, I better blow my head off... oooo, burn my body, ooooo.

TONY ROBBINS is all things to all people.
Tony Robbins NEVER killed himself.

except that one time in the early 80s, but that's beside the point. i'm not going to argue the finer points of Robbinsian theology with a Nazi.

[Classical_Liberal]

47. I'm a female and was sympathetic to your line of

argument until you acted like that was an insult or something.

[mushroomhead]

56. However

You want to take it. I am relying on my real life experience and it is my perception that rules my argument, not yours.

BTW my argument needs no sympathy.

[not systems]

58. That what I'm saying...

you are like a pea in a pod with the gropanator.

So who were you voting for again?

[incapsulated]

42. Shut Up! Only Ninjas...

Have REAL ULTIMATE POWER!

[thebigidea]

46. HA! The Ninja only DREAM of being as stealthy, as perfect as Tony Robbins

NINJA: have to wear black out of shame of being discovered.

TONY ROBBINS: wears plastic smile with no fear of reprisals... yet, in this photo - he manages PARTIAL dissappearance anyway:



lets see your damn ninja match that!

[incapsulated]

49. Tony is so very big...

He cannot hide from their killing powers!

[thebigidea]

61. typical ninja mudslinging tactics

One look at TONY ROBBINS and all NINJA would stow their freakin' shuriken.

and damn right he's big - and if he gets mad... then he'll AWAKEN THE GIANT WITHIN...

like VOLTRON - only significantly more Tony Robbinsy.

[w4rma]

45. "I admire him … for what he did with it."

…
Asked who his heroes are, he answered, "I admired Hitler, for instance, because he came from being a little man with almost no formal education, up to power. I admire him for being such a good public speaker and for what he did with it."
…
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/Politics/arnold031002_past.html

[mushroomhead]

53. Not true

It has been reported yesterday and today thaT actually said he "did not" admire what he did.

The point is nobody knows. Not you, not me, not Gray Davis.

Do you believe that Arnold is pro-Nazi?

[thebigidea]

55. do you?

would it shatter your belief system if this was all feigned? if he actually DIDN'T sympathize with nazis after giving you the impression that he did?

Hide the armbands!

[mushroomhead]

57. Of course not.

Anything else?

[AnnabelLee]

59. Locking

Do not start inflammatory threads in the General Discussion Forum.

Thank you
AnnabelLee
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