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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:02 AM
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Beyond the death and deprivation is the total indignity
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 12:05 AM by SoCalDem
Americans are often chided by foreigners for being almost obsessively clean.. We spend tons of money on deodorants, toothpaste, laundry detergents, cleaning supplies, and too many personal hygiene items to even begin to list..

Can you even IMAGINE how it would feel to be submerged in slimy, filthy water laced with chemicals and petroleum products and who knows what else?? and for DAYS??

To wear the same grubby clothes for days, in 90+ temps, drenched in "fear" sweat and ordinary sweat?..combined with the residue of all the toxins clinging to every pore, just waiting for a cut or scrape, so they can enter your body??

Or having to "eliminate" in front of so many strangers, in a corner of a room where tens of thousands before and after you have "gone" or will "go"??

No place to wash, no way to brush teeth or wash hair..

Americans are offended by odors.. Madison Avenue has drilled it into our heads that everything simply must be fresh and sparkling...and above all it must smell good!

The total indignity of communal , primal living is something that NO American is eager to do, and as important as it is to get the story and pictures out to the public, it's also humiliating to most people to be seen in such a state of disrepair.

The ones who are seen that way, are at least alive, but lost dignity is an injury to the psyche that lingers alongside the physical injury these people have sustained..



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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:06 AM
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1. But Buttface Babs says" This is working very well for them"
I really think they want riots so they can test out their new crowd control toys.

She may as well have said, "Those welfare queens should thank my son!"
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:19 AM
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7. I hate her
in a way I've hated very few people in my life. She's an absolute monster.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:07 AM
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2. That's something I can't stop thinking about either
With regards to those held in captive misery at the Superdome and Convention Center. Don't forget that there were people who DIED there and no one picked up the corpses. All that filth and you have dead people next to you. Little to no food or water. Hell on earth is all I can think.

Those people did NOTHING wrong. NOTHING to deserve that horror. Yet they were treated worse than convicted murderers on Death Row.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:11 AM
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4. and they were LOCKED in..not allowed to leave
Lots of those folks could have walked for days if ne=cessary, and gotten to somewhere else..dry..and perhaps where phones were working.. MOST of those people at the dome probably had family elsewhere who could have come and picked them up..Now that they are scattered all over the country, those family members may not be able to afford to drive cross country to reunite with a cousin or uncle..

They actually made the problem WORSE by not allowing the people to head out walking.. The ones who were too ill or old to walk out, could have been evacuated, and the population of the dome would have been much smaller too.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:10 AM
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3. Not to mention all of the rest of the mess they dealt with.
No lights? People being threatened, dying? And an alarm that went off for 24 hours straight because no one could figure out how to turn it off? My God, I get ill just thinking about it!
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:15 AM
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5. Forcing people to live in their own filth
psychologically conditions the general populace to think of them as filthy. It's a genocidal transference: they become the vermin.

"It's their own fault"



"This is working very well for them"

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:17 AM
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6. I heard someone (while flipping channels) say
Just LOOK at all that MESS they left at the dome..

Ummmm.. They were LOCKED IN..and had no place to PUT the trash
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:21 AM
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8. And effective
Evidence of that is the bus in VA (the one with Jesse Jackson on it) where that local guy was yelling about not bring "those types" here and referring to them like they were looters and criminals when these are the people who did what officials had told them to do, had patiently waited .... law-abiding citizens.

The only thing is ... they probably all looked and smelled "dirty".

You've made a very valid point.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:01 AM
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12. yes - a form of torture
They are experts on this aren't they? :grr: :grr: :grr:

What sick bastards they are!

:kick:

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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:21 AM
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9. This was something that really bothered me after a reporter was
talking to the people who were stranded on the overpass. The space they were all in was relatively small for the amount of people who were there, and one woman said they felt just like animals in the woods. They had to do all of their personal needs, not only in front of everybody, but the poor elderly people had to do it in their clothes sitting in their wheelchairs. No human being should be subjected to this. No one.
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MadeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 12:26 AM
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10. Barbara Numbskull Bush is responsible for making George a sick fascist...
She should get the same punishment or worse.:grr:
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:39 AM
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11. He is his mother's son..
That malicious streak is a mile wide and a mile deep. It's in his eyes..his smirk..his tone.. he's an evil little man
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:08 AM
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13. when you treat people like animals, indignity is sure to follow . . .
and frankly, we generally treat our animals far better than the people of New Orleans have been treated in the past week . . .
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:00 PM
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14. exept for the animals of NewOrleans
:(
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:08 PM
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15. I can not even imagine!
:cry: I am constantly washing my hands through the course of a day. . I can't even imagine what these people have gone through, and continue to go through, both psychologically and physically. And I hope I never have to experience what they have been through.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:22 PM
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16. The kids might not mind much, but just think of the older people
who pride themselves on being proper and clean....
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:25 PM
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17. The poor women without their monthly sanitary needs!
I can't even imagine the indignity of the entire thing. I really can't.

I know the final story will blow our minds. I think I understand the enormity of the whole thing but I expect to be shocked before this is all over.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:59 PM
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18. I guess we all take our 'creature comforts' for granted
It's one thing to be 'at your worst' in front of your own family, but to have to endure day after day of it in front of people you don;t know must have been unbearable
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