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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:26 AM
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John Kerry
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 03:28 AM by BullGooseLoony
I keep thinking back on the election and the campaign.

I looked at John Kerry and I saw him as very presidential, especially toward the end of the campaign when he got his shit together the best he could at that point. His stature is certain. His poise is strong. He had learned something.

But somehow I am not able to think of John Kerry being our President right now.

It is basically because I've become accustomed to the idiot in the White House. At this point, it's hard for me to imagine anyone other than some goddamned moron from Connecticut trying to play tough-guy cowboy. This is just the way things are. Our president is a fucking idiot for another 3 1/2 years, unless we can get him to resign. Then Cheney. No better. Whatever.

Bush has stretched out some difficult shoes to fill. Our next President will have it SO easy, in particular if they are a Democrat. The lack of stupidity......wow. The media won't have to cover for him- or her, I guess (yay?). Practical policy. Coherent speeches. Transparent government. Imagine that. It seems so long ago.

It's so fucked up. I've become so jaded that I can't imagine someone with *halfway* decent values leading our nation. It doesn't even seem possible anymore.

I had very high hopes for Kerry, too. I thought he was going to win that morning of November 2nd, as so many of us did. I thought he had it.

Bush needs to RESIGN, NOW. I've had enough.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:27 AM
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1. I know for certain Kerry would have handled this a lot better.
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John
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TheFriar Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:28 AM
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3. no one could handle it worse
than Bush and his toadies.
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TheFriar Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:28 AM
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2. Kerry sucked
He actually won and just laid down. I have no party :cry:
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:29 AM
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4. I sympathize with your frustration.
Kerry was not my first choice either but I am certain Kerry or anybody for that matter would have handled this better than Idiot-In-Chief.


John
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:31 AM
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5. I think he did the right thing.
Putting aside Ohio, he was 4% down. He conceded.

That was probably the right thing to do.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:06 PM
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10. I disagree
He could have fought this. Instead he did the same thing Al Gore did. It is one of the reasons the Democrats look so damn weak.


John
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:41 AM
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6. Kerry won the debates and they still voted for the chimp.
You know John Kerry took a swift boat and pulled people out of the water while wounded and facing gunfire. What has our beloved commander and chimp done.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:42 AM
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7. If he's not screaming Impeachment in the Senate.
SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!

I already voted for you. I hope?
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:58 AM
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8. Kerry or Gore
This could have been Kerry's first period - and we'd been on our way to peace in Iraq.
Or it culd have been Gore's second period, and we'd been on our way to peace in the Middle-East, cause Iraq would never have happened.

As for the hurricane disaster, I'm sure both would have handled it better than Bush. Not only that, the people in NO would have had a president they trusted and reacted differently to an evacuation order.

Because it would have been an order then, not a suggestion, no?

That's strange, you know. The way the gov't just said 'Get out of there', and left people to fend for themselves. I don't have a similar situation to compare with from my own society, but I imagine there would be a forced evacuation where police helped/coerced people that wouldn't leave.
In the US today, people don't trust the police/military and martial law (like it then would have been) seems like a monumental threat, not a means to solve an emergency situation.

But then this wouldn't have been such a disaster with any of the alternatives above, because the FEMA-program would not have been slashed in favor of a 'war' on terrorism...
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:53 PM
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11. Both Gore and Senator Kerry made global warming a priority.
I am sure that while no one person could prevent an natural disaster the polices Vice President Gore would have introduced would have lessened this force. As a result more lives would have been saved in the end run.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:53 PM
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12. Both Gore and Senator Kerry made global warming a priority.
I am sure that while no one person could prevent an natural disaster the polices Vice President Gore would have introduced would have lessened this force. As a result more lives would have been saved in the end run.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 04:48 AM
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9. As the Clinton presidency becomes more and more distant
it is difficult for me to imagine an administration that actually has concerns about normal everyday people.

Whatever faults Clinton had, and however upsetted I am by that he does (like his uncritical defense of the administration), I always know that ultimately he came from a working class background. Sure enough, he didn't sign tax cuts that helped only the wealthy. He didn't sign a bill that helped credit card companies screw people over (Biden tried to get bankruptcy 'reform' passed even then). Clinton vetoed such bills.

Clinton knew what the purpose of different agencies was. He also tried to appoint the best people he thought he could get for the job. He knew what needed to be funded.

And what's frustrating is that both Gore and Kerry would likely have been BETTER presidents than Clinton. While both may not have had the charisma, they had the intellect (though Clinton was undoubtadly brilliant) and in a sense, a more sincere moral understanding of issues. Here too we noticed how Clinton advised Kerry to support statewide gay marriage bans. Kerry declined. And we have also seen how different Gore has become, actively speaking out against the war and the PATRIOT Act in ways Clinton has not done.



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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 04:00 PM
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13. What's the point of all this angonizing about what IS NOT?
Edited on Sat Sep-03-05 04:02 PM by MyPetRock
Kerry conceded in record time and the chimp is in for another 4. Gore fought like hell but the fascist power brokers inserted *. I think nothing can be done until enough pain and anger has infused enough average Americans, both Dem, Repub and others, that we will no longer stand for this shit. JMTB.
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